What about those FAQing number stations anyway?

What about those FAQing number stations anyway?

Post by Markus Wand » Tue, 16 Mar 1993 23:25:52

My turn to ask the eternal question:  What is it with these number
stations anyway?  The one I heard recently was at about 5.165MHz
USB, in the evening hours, with a female voice reciting 5-digit
groups in German.  The voice was voice samples played back by
computer.  "Zero" was used instead of "Null" (0) and a word like
"Fuelle" was used instead of "Fuenf" (5).  Transmissions were
bracketed by "Achtung" (Attention) and "Ende" (End).  Each 5-digit
group was recited twice making it almost foolproof to copy even
if the reception was bad.  Not a one-time occurrence either; I
heard it a year ago too!

So.  It's an encrypted transmission, it's meant to be received by
low-tech means, it's one-way, it's quite likely to more than one
recipient, it's in GERMAN, and it's transmitted in/to North America.
What on earth is it?

Markus Wandel

 
 
 

What about those FAQing number stations anyway?

Post by Michael Babine » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 01:11:55


I saw the recent posting by Jim Speer, K5YUT regarding the new MFJ QRP rigs,
my question is have these rigs been reviewed in any of the Amateur Magazines
yet? If so, I would appreciate it if someone could let me know what magazine
and what issue.

I've never owned a rig which covers 30m. Is this band usable
pretty much around the clock? I assume it must share some of the properties
of 20/40 meters. Does this seem like a good choice for a single band QRP
field day station?

I know that there is a book which has been published specifically on mods
for the Heath HW-8. Can someone give me a pointer to a mail-order source
for this book?

Thanks in advance,

Michael, VE3WMB
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What about those FAQing number stations anyway?

Post by Andrew Be » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 03:20:23


>My turn to ask the eternal question:  What is it with these number
>stations anyway?  The one I heard recently was at about 5.165MHz

>So.  It's an encrypted transmission, it's meant to be received by

There are many hypotheses about these, although the collective wisdom
seems to converge at a one-way transmission via Vernam Cipher.

Quote:>low-tech means, it's one-way, it's quite likely to more than one
>recipient, it's in GERMAN, and it's transmitted in/to North America.
>What on earth is it?

The language is not relevant.  All that would show is that the receiving
end is capable of counting to 10 in German.  Not exactly a difficult
thing to learn if German's not your native tongue (ack.  a sentence
with 2 negatives.  sorry...).

Drew
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What about those FAQing number stations anyway?

Post by Scott Dors » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 04:47:33


>My turn to ask the eternal question:  What is it with these number
>stations anyway?  The one I heard recently was at about 5.165MHz

Dunno, but one of the military bases on the current shutdown list is
Vint Hill Farms here in ***ia, which a lot of the numbers transmissions
have been DFed to.  If you notice that the beam they are coming in from
changes radically in the next year, you'll know why.
--scott
 
 
 

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Post by Charles Ada » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 10:58:44

i won't repeat Michael's post, VE3WMB.

but he did bring up an interesting question.  is the ARRL allowing
Field Day on the WARC bands?  i thought we had an agreement to stay
off them critters for ALL major contests.  am i ignorant and/or
misinformed?  

don't flame me, i'll be working QRP field day, but not on the WARC
bands.

73 de k5fo  chuck    dit      dit

 
 
 

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Post by Berthold Thew » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 17:47:04

Quote:>My turn to ask the eternal question:  What is it with these number
>stations anyway?  The one I heard recently was at about 5.165MHz
>USB, in the evening hours, with a female voice reciting 5-digit
>groups in German.  The voice was voice samples played back by
>computer.  "Zero" was used instead of "Null" (0) and a word like
>"Fuelle" was used instead of "Fuenf" (5).  Transmissions were

  ^^^^^^

They say "Fuennef" (you see the similarity to "Fuenf"?). But I don't
know the reason why, perhaps they think this will make it clearer to
understand.

Quote:>bracketed by "Achtung" (Attention) and "Ende" (End).  Each 5-digit
>group was recited twice making it almost foolproof to copy even
>if the reception was bad.  Not a one-time occurrence either; I
>heard it a year ago too!

Greeetings Berthold DL3YEI
 
 
 

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Post by Gary Coffm » Thu, 18 Mar 1993 01:06:53


Quote:>i won't repeat Michael's post, VE3WMB.

>but he did bring up an interesting question.  is the ARRL allowing
>Field Day on the WARC bands?  i thought we had an agreement to stay
>off them critters for ALL major contests.  am i ignorant and/or
>misinformed?  

>don't flame me, i'll be working QRP field day, but not on the WARC
>bands.

For shame Chuck, Field Day isn't a *contest*, it's an emergency
preparedness drill. At least that's the ARRL official line, so
it operates all bands, all modes.

Gary
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Post by Alan Brubak » Thu, 18 Mar 1993 03:13:01

Actually, unless something has changed, the 30 meter band is still
"off limits" to Field Day operation. All other amateur bands and
modes may be used for valid FD QSOs. It is correct to say that
Field Day is technically not a contest since no awards are given,
and no winners are declared.
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Post by PStJ » Wed, 17 Mar 1993 22:12:51

Quote:

>but he did bring up an interesting question.  is the ARRL allowing
>Field Day on the WARC bands?  i thought we had an agreement to stay
>off them critters for ALL major contests.  am i ignorant and/or
>misinformed?  

I won't touch the question, but Field Day is not a contest.  It's an
emergency communications drill.  So it's just as important to get
experience setting up for the WARC bands as for any other.  Field Day
also operates the satellites, which are likewise contest-free. Viewed as
emergency practice, you can see why all bands/modes are used.
Quote:>>>==>PStJTT

 
 
 

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Post by The QRP » Thu, 18 Mar 1993 06:26:17


Things and such deleted ...

Quote:

> For shame Chuck, Field Day isn't a *contest*, it's an emergency
> preparedness drill. At least that's the ARRL official line, so
> it operates all bands, all modes.

Gee, I was expecting MULTIPLE smileys on this one, Gary!  :-)

I always wondered why, if it's not a contest, why do they keep
scores?  Then, they publish the scores from highest to lowest.

Oh yeah, almost forgot --  :-)  :-)  :-)

Whew, that's a relief!

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