PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by vincent coppol » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 00:23:07

Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
ML-1210 laser printer? The price of $199 seems  reasonable for a ham
budget.

Check out this link:
http://www.redwaveradio.com/,aid,55933,00.asp

This is in no way an ad or endor***t for the product.

thanks,
Vince Coppola

 
 
 

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by schatzi » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 06:14:12


I find it easier, neater, narrow (10 mil) lines using the "whole page" avery
labels, positive PCB material,  sodium hydroxide developer etc. I just don't
find the iron-on to work as well, or as repeatably.  The other thing about
Avery Labels is that if you are careful in removing them they can be reused
(they are a little expensive, but less than the iron on materials.)

Some folks have reported that the fused toner on regular laser print paper
works also.

Experiment and keep notebooks!


>Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
>ML-1210 laser printer? The price of $199 seems  reasonable for a ham
>budget.

>Check out this link:
>http://www.redwaveradio.com/,aid,55933,00.asp

>This is in no way an ad or endor***t for the product.

>thanks,
>Vince Coppola


 
 
 

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by Jack Taylo » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 07:56:34

If you are just looking for a black and white laser, check out Ebay.  Awhile
back I saw used Epson 1500's going for around $50.00.

Jack


>Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
>ML-1210 laser printer? The price of $199 seems  reasonable for a ham
>budget.

>Check out this link:
>http://www.redwaveradio.com/,aid,55933,00.asp

>This is in no way an ad or endor***t for the product.

>thanks,
>Vince Coppola


 
 
 

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by Gary Tait, Very Rea » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 03:24:57


> I find it easier, neater, narrow (10 mil) lines using the "whole page" avery
> labels, positive PCB material,  sodium hydroxide developer etc. I just don't
> find the iron-on to work as well, or as repeatably.  The other thing about
> Avery Labels is that if you are careful in removing them they can be reused
> (they are a little expensive, but less than the iron on materials.)

> Some folks have reported that the fused toner on regular laser print paper
> works also.

> Experiment and keep notebooks!

What is the Avery product number for them?


> >Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
> >ML-1210 laser printer? The price of $199 seems  reasonable for a ham
> >budget.

> >Check out this link:
> >http://www.redwaveradio.com/,aid,55933,00.asp

> >This is in no way an ad or endor***t for the product.

> >thanks,
> >Vince Coppola


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PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by Eamon Skelto » Fri, 05 Oct 2001 00:23:15


> Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
> ML-1210 laser printer?

I haven't tried a Samsung laser printer.  It works fine on my
OKI LED printer and on my old Apple LaserWriter.

You can buy special film for the job.  I had some success with
TEC-200 film.  I have found that Epson glossy photo paper for
inkjets works even better.  The advantage with the photo paper is
that it is water soluble.  If you put the PCB in warm water, the
paper dissolves and floats away, the toner is left on the PCB.

Have a look at:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq/pcb.html
for details.

73, Ed.  EI9GQ.

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PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by vincent coppol » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 05:44:11

If one wants to do work down to 10 mils then obviously a 300 dpi is out. 8.5" /
300 = approx 29 mils, is out. So using a 600 dpi should result in around 15 mil
traces or did I do something wrong?

Vince Coppola



> > I find it easier, neater, narrow (10 mil) lines using the "whole page" avery
> > labels, positive PCB material,  sodium hydroxide developer etc. I just don't
> > find the iron-on to work as well, or as repeatably.  The other thing about
> > Avery Labels is that if you are careful in removing them they can be reused
> > (they are a little expensive, but less than the iron on materials.)

> > Some folks have reported that the fused toner on regular laser print paper
> > works also.

> > Experiment and keep notebooks!

> What is the Avery product number for them?


> > >Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
> > >ML-1210 laser printer? The price of $199 seems  reasonable for a ham
> > >budget.

> > >Check out this link:
> > >http://www.redwaveradio.com/,aid,55933,00.asp

> > >This is in no way an ad or endor***t for the product.

> > >thanks,
> > >Vince Coppola

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PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by vincent coppol » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 05:48:41

If one wants to do work down to 10 mils then obviously a 300 dpi is out.
8.5" / 300 = approx 29 mils, is out. So using a 600 dpi should result in
around 15 mil traces or did I do something wrong?

Vince Coppola
N1VC



> > Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
> > ML-1210 laser printer?

> I haven't tried a Samsung laser printer.  It works fine on my
> OKI LED printer and on my old Apple LaserWriter.

> You can buy special film for the job.  I had some success with
> TEC-200 film.  I have found that Epson glossy photo paper for
> inkjets works even better.  The advantage with the photo paper is
> that it is water soluble.  If you put the PCB in warm water, the
> paper dissolves and floats away, the toner is left on the PCB.

> Have a look at:
> http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq/pcb.html
> for details.

> 73, Ed.  EI9GQ.

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PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by vincent coppol » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 05:49:41

If one wants to do work down to 10 mils then obviously a 300 dpi is out.
8.5" / 300 = approx 29 mils, is out. So using a 600 dpi should result in
around 15 mil traces or did I do something wrong?

Vince Coppola
N1VC



> > Does anyone know how laser iron on pcb film would work on a Samsung
> > ML-1210 laser printer?

> I haven't tried a Samsung laser printer.  It works fine on my
> OKI LED printer and on my old Apple LaserWriter.

> You can buy special film for the job.  I had some success with
> TEC-200 film.  I have found that Epson glossy photo paper for
> inkjets works even better.  The advantage with the photo paper is
> that it is water soluble.  If you put the PCB in warm water, the
> paper dissolves and floats away, the toner is left on the PCB.

> Have a look at:
> http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq/pcb.html
> for details.

> 73, Ed.  EI9GQ.

> --
> Remove 'X' to reply.
> http://homepage.eircom.net/~ei9gq
> Linux 2.4.10

 
 
 

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by Ralph Mower » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:49:18

Not giving it much thought on this end but wouldn't that be 1 inch
devided by 300 ?

> If one wants to do work down to 10 mils then obviously a 300 dpi is out. 8.5" /
> 300 = approx 29 mils, is out. So using a 600 dpi should result in around 15 mil
> traces or did I do something wrong?

> Vince Coppola

 
 
 

PCB's from ML-1210 Laser Printer

Post by vincent coppol » Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:55:56

Yes your are right. thanks for the correction

> Not giving it much thought on this end but wouldn't that be 1 inch
> devided by 300 ?


> > If one wants to do work down to 10 mils then obviously a 300 dpi is out. 8.5" /
> > 300 = approx 29 mils, is out. So using a 600 dpi should result in around 15 mil
> > traces or did I do something wrong?

> > Vince Coppola