FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Sat, 07 Apr 2001 23:33:16

I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
$2700.00,, More to follow...

> Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
> Although it is a broadband receiver (scanner), at least on paper it looks as
> it should be capable of quite decent performance on HF, specially with the
> optional DSP-1 unit (which adds bandpass tuning, notch filter and noise
> reduction filter).

> Any opinions?  How does it compare in terms of HF performance vs. dedicated
> HF
> receivers (for example the IC-R75)?

 
 
 

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:57:43


It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!

> I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
> radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
> below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
> output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
> synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
> tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
> carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
> SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
> Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
> and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
> re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
> OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
> does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
> in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
> the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
> Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
> on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
> owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
> out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
> to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
> automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
> and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
> I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
> radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
> take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
> THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
> attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
> front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
> the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
> overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
> s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
> great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
> weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
> superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
> $2700.00,, More to follow...


> > Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
> > Although it is a broadband receiver (scanner), at least on paper it looks as
> > it should be capable of quite decent performance on HF, specially with the
> > optional DSP-1 unit (which adds bandpass tuning, notch filter and noise
> > reduction filter).

> > Any opinions?  How does it compare in terms of HF performance vs. dedicated
> > HF
> > receivers (for example the IC-R75)?

 
 
 

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:42:09

Hello News Group Community.. After programming in about 400 local
frequencies I can now determine that the scan functions are first rate.
The visual display of active frequencies, the ability to use the
band-scope along with scanner functions is very useful. Sensitivity and
selectivity continues to be outstanding on all frequencies. My JRC
NRD-545 has the UHF converter built in. This is good up to 2 GHZ, but
the unit does not HEAR what the VR-5000 hears. On a few stations I used
for testing, the 545 showed a S-1 reading on a weak station from Mt
Wilson in Los Angeles. That is about 125 miles as the crow flies. It was
very static ridden and hard to understand. On the VR-5000 S-5 , loud and
clear. I needed to PEAK the tunable RF peselector, and that made a BIG
difference on this weak station at 461 Mhz. But then that is why they
put the feature in the radio, to peak the RF front end for maximum RF
gain.. Have a good weekend!! BTW, my antenna is a DISCONE made by Radio
Shack.

> It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
> encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
> cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
> showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
> Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
> VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
> operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
> Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
> things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
> and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
> on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
> a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
> a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!


> > I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
> > radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
> > below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
> > output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
> > synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
> > tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
> > carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
> > SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
> > Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
> > and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
> > re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
> > OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
> > does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
> > in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
> > the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
> > Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
> > on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
> > owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
> > out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
> > to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
> > automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
> > and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
> > I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
> > radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
> > take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
> > THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
> > attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
> > front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
> > the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
> > overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
> > s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
> > great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
> > weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
> > superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
> > $2700.00,, More to follow...


> > > Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
> > > Although it is a broadband receiver (scanner), at least on paper it looks as
> > > it should be capable of quite decent performance on HF, specially with the
> > > optional DSP-1 unit (which adds bandpass tuning, notch filter and noise
> > > reduction filter).

> > > Any opinions?  How does it compare in terms of HF performance vs. dedicated
> > > HF
> > > receivers (for example the IC-R75)?

 
 
 

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Bruce Tyle » Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:57:24

Robert,,, Hi there again,,,
Glad to see you up and posting so much info on the VR-5000. I would have
been asking or at least, throwing in my 2 cents worth in the last few days
but I have been away for the weekend. I thought I needed a break as, with
my illness, I virtually haven't been able to leave this room for the past 3
and a half years. A friend offerred me a small trip away so I quickly
grabbed it. I grabbed all the necessities and away I went. What a neat time
I had too.. Anyway back to business...

Hey,, we have got to keep this VR-5000 stuff/info on the boil as I always
thought that it was quite a lot more powerful than the weak manual
suggested. I am really glad to hear that Yaesu have decided to reprint the
manual. I just phoned my Yaesu outlet (they'r not really a Yaesu dealership
though) and they had never even thought to question the manual but he
hasn't heard anything from Yaesu yet on that... He will keep me informed
if/when any new literature arrives, he assures me.

Can you spare me a few minutes of your time to answer a few easy ones?

You say you have programmed about 400 frequencies into memory. What happens
when you get to memory 100+, since there are only 2 places for the digits
on the LCD panel. Presumably this would allow the use of  mem channels 00
to 99. Does the set automatically put the hundredth one into a new bank?
With only 2 digit places, memory channel 1000+ would also suffer the same
fate.. Do you get what I am asking??

Have you figured out how to divide the memory channels into banks? I
wouldn't mind having 20 banks of 100 channels.. I am hoping that I can do
this before I start grouping different types of received signals - police,
ambulance, fire, air traffic, business, TV, FM radio... that sort of thing.

How about actually deleting a memory and its contents? My manual shows how
to mask but not delete a mem channel...

There, that will keep me going until "next time". Hahahaha... Well, you
said  "I know" and now I might just be tapping you on the shoulder to say
"how do..?". I always did believe that the quickest way to learn was to
ask. Consider yourself lucky that you don't live in the same town as me.
Hahahahaha.!!!!

I like your suggestion on remebering which keys you pushed when you find
something new. ME,,, I am too scared to push any new keys to find out, at
the moment. Maybe soon I will work up the nerve to "explore".. You can bet
your boots though, that if I find something new,, it will be posted in here
the very next moment. I have lots of time to kill so I will wait for any
new developments from any source.

I have tried my VR-5000 on HF SSB but found it to be a few Hz off frequency
(about 100+ Hz). The 20 Hz adjustments at these frequnecies is too large
anyway. I like to be able to do an absolute minimum of 10 Hz adjustments. 1
Hz is even better for the real fussy listener but not totally necessay. My
ears can notice as little as about 5 Hz when tuning in on most USB
transmissions but when tuning 2 HF receivers side by side on the same
frequency, your ears can notice far less than even 1 single Hz with the 2
different audio signals acting against each other, creating a third signal
(unless they are both "spot on" with each other). This practise is very
good when making internal adjustments to some receivers. I don't encourage
this sort of activity though unless you are really self-confident.

I am going to copy and paste all info posted, into a VR-5000 file.

Hope to hear back from you or others asap........
Cheers until next time.......


>Hello News Group Community.. After programming in about 400 local
>frequencies I can now determine that the scan functions are first rate.
>The visual display of active frequencies, the ability to use the
>band-scope along with scanner functions is very useful. Sensitivity and
>selectivity continues to be outstanding on all frequencies. My JRC
>NRD-545 has the UHF converter built in. This is good up to 2 GHZ, but
>the unit does not HEAR what the VR-5000 hears. On a few stations I used
>for testing, the 545 showed a S-1 reading on a weak station from Mt
>Wilson in Los Angeles. That is about 125 miles as the crow flies. It was
>very static ridden and hard to understand. On the VR-5000 S-5 , loud and
>clear. I needed to PEAK the tunable RF peselector, and that made a BIG
>difference on this weak station at 461 Mhz. But then that is why they
>put the feature in the radio, to peak the RF front end for maximum RF
>gain.. Have a good weekend!! BTW, my antenna is a DISCONE made by Radio
>Shack.


>> It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
>> encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
>> cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
>> showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
>> Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
>> VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
>> operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
>> Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
>> things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
>> and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
>> on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
>> a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
>> a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!


>> > I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
>> > radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
>> > below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
>> > output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
>> > synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
>> > tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
>> > carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
>> > SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
>> > Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
>> > and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
>> > re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
>> > OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
>> > does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
>> > in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
>> > the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
>> > Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
>> > on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
>> > owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
>> > out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
>> > to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
>> > automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
>> > and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
>> > I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
>> > radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
>> > take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
>> > THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
>> > attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
>> > front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
>> > the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
>> > overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
>> > s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
>> > great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
>> > weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
>> > superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
>> > $2700.00,, More to follow...


>> > > Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
>> > > Although it is a broadband receiver (scanner), at least on paper it looks as
>> > > it should be capable of quite decent performance on HF, specially with the
>> > > optional DSP-1 unit (which adds bandpass tuning, notch filter and noise
>> > > reduction filter).

>> > > Any opinions?  How does it compare in terms of HF performance vs. dedicated
>> > > HF
>> > > receivers (for example the IC-R75)?

 
 
 

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:11:24

Well I am short on time tonight but let me say this. You have a bank of
memories. That would be from 00 to 99, or 100 per bank. Then you have a
memory Group. 20 groups, or 20X100=2000 ... I have 14 groups at this
time or about 30 stations stored per group. Fire, police, US forestry,
Airplane, TV stations, CB radio, special ham radio nets etc. I have only
entered stuff, not tried to delete or over write anything... Got to run.
Very busy week ahead. Glad you had a chance to get out and relax!!

> Robert,,, Hi there again,,,
> Glad to see you up and posting so much info on the VR-5000. I would have
> been asking or at least, throwing in my 2 cents worth in the last few days
> but I have been away for the weekend. I thought I needed a break as, with
> my illness, I virtually haven't been able to leave this room for the past 3
> and a half years. A friend offerred me a small trip away so I quickly
> grabbed it. I grabbed all the necessities and away I went. What a neat time
> I had too.. Anyway back to business...

> Hey,, we have got to keep this VR-5000 stuff/info on the boil as I always
> thought that it was quite a lot more powerful than the weak manual
> suggested. I am really glad to hear that Yaesu have decided to reprint the
> manual. I just phoned my Yaesu outlet (they'r not really a Yaesu dealership
> though) and they had never even thought to question the manual but he
> hasn't heard anything from Yaesu yet on that... He will keep me informed
> if/when any new literature arrives, he assures me.

> Can you spare me a few minutes of your time to answer a few easy ones?

> You say you have programmed about 400 frequencies into memory. What happens
> when you get to memory 100+, since there are only 2 places for the digits
> on the LCD panel. Presumably this would allow the use of  mem channels 00
> to 99. Does the set automatically put the hundredth one into a new bank?
> With only 2 digit places, memory channel 1000+ would also suffer the same
> fate.. Do you get what I am asking??

> Have you figured out how to divide the memory channels into banks? I
> wouldn't mind having 20 banks of 100 channels.. I am hoping that I can do
> this before I start grouping different types of received signals - police,
> ambulance, fire, air traffic, business, TV, FM radio... that sort of thing.

> How about actually deleting a memory and its contents? My manual shows how
> to mask but not delete a mem channel...

> There, that will keep me going until "next time". Hahahaha... Well, you
> said  "I know" and now I might just be tapping you on the shoulder to say
> "how do..?". I always did believe that the quickest way to learn was to
> ask. Consider yourself lucky that you don't live in the same town as me.
> Hahahahaha.!!!!

> I like your suggestion on remebering which keys you pushed when you find
> something new. ME,,, I am too scared to push any new keys to find out, at
> the moment. Maybe soon I will work up the nerve to "explore".. You can bet
> your boots though, that if I find something new,, it will be posted in here
> the very next moment. I have lots of time to kill so I will wait for any
> new developments from any source.

> I have tried my VR-5000 on HF SSB but found it to be a few Hz off frequency
> (about 100+ Hz). The 20 Hz adjustments at these frequnecies is too large
> anyway. I like to be able to do an absolute minimum of 10 Hz adjustments. 1
> Hz is even better for the real fussy listener but not totally necessay. My
> ears can notice as little as about 5 Hz when tuning in on most USB
> transmissions but when tuning 2 HF receivers side by side on the same
> frequency, your ears can notice far less than even 1 single Hz with the 2
> different audio signals acting against each other, creating a third signal
> (unless they are both "spot on" with each other). This practise is very
> good when making internal adjustments to some receivers. I don't encourage
> this sort of activity though unless you are really self-confident.

> I am going to copy and paste all info posted, into a VR-5000 file.

> Hope to hear back from you or others asap........
> Cheers until next time.......


> >Hello News Group Community.. After programming in about 400 local
> >frequencies I can now determine that the scan functions are first rate.
> >The visual display of active frequencies, the ability to use the
> >band-scope along with scanner functions is very useful. Sensitivity and
> >selectivity continues to be outstanding on all frequencies. My JRC
> >NRD-545 has the UHF converter built in. This is good up to 2 GHZ, but
> >the unit does not HEAR what the VR-5000 hears. On a few stations I used
> >for testing, the 545 showed a S-1 reading on a weak station from Mt
> >Wilson in Los Angeles. That is about 125 miles as the crow flies. It was
> >very static ridden and hard to understand. On the VR-5000 S-5 , loud and
> >clear. I needed to PEAK the tunable RF peselector, and that made a BIG
> >difference on this weak station at 461 Mhz. But then that is why they
> >put the feature in the radio, to peak the RF front end for maximum RF
> >gain.. Have a good weekend!! BTW, my antenna is a DISCONE made by Radio
> >Shack.


> >> It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
> >> encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
> >> cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
> >> showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
> >> Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
> >> VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
> >> operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
> >> Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
> >> things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
> >> and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
> >> on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
> >> a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
> >> a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!


> >> > I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
> >> > radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
> >> > below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
> >> > output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
> >> > synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
> >> > tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
> >> > carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
> >> > SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
> >> > Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
> >> > and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
> >> > re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
> >> > OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
> >> > does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
> >> > in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
> >> > the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
> >> > Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
> >> > on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
> >> > owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
> >> > out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
> >> > to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
> >> > automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
> >> > and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
> >> > I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
> >> > radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
> >> > take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
> >> > THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
> >> > attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
> >> > front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
> >> > the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
> >> > overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
> >> > s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
> >> > great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
> >> > weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
> >> > superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
> >> > $2700.00,, More to follow...


> >> > > Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
> >> > > Although it is a broadband receiver (scanner), at least on paper it looks as
> >> > > it should be capable of quite decent performance on HF, specially with the
> >> > > optional DSP-1 unit (which adds bandpass tuning, notch filter and noise
> >> > > reduction filter).

> >> > > Any opinions?  How does it compare in terms of HF performance vs. dedicated
> >> > > HF
> >> > > receivers (for example the IC-R75)?

 
 
 

FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:25:02

David, your email did not work for me so I will reply this way...

DPS, well I would play around it. DSP will work best with MODERATE
adjustment on the band width. NR can be on  as well. I hear a
significant improvement when I turn mine on??? This may be user
preference. Each mode of operation, CW,SSB,AM etc. have its own DSP
setting. ON AM I leave the 150 and 3000 KHZ function OFF and just use
NR. On SSB I reduce the DSP bandwidth to 350 KHZ and 2300 KHZ with NR
on. ON CW I set it at 400 and 1000 HZ. NR "off"... Let me know how it
goes!!


> Well I am short on time tonight but let me say this. You have a bank of
> memories. That would be from 00 to 99, or 100 per bank. Then you have a
> memory Group. 20 groups, or 20X100=2000 ... I have 14 groups at this
> time or about 30 stations stored per group. Fire, police, US forestry,
> Airplane, TV stations, CB radio, special ham radio nets etc. I have only
> entered stuff, not tried to delete or over write anything... Got to run.
> Very busy week ahead. Glad you had a chance to get out and relax!!


> > Robert,,, Hi there again,,,
> > Glad to see you up and posting so much info on the VR-5000. I would have
> > been asking or at least, throwing in my 2 cents worth in the last few days
> > but I have been away for the weekend. I thought I needed a break as, with
> > my illness, I virtually haven't been able to leave this room for the past 3
> > and a half years. A friend offerred me a small trip away so I quickly
> > grabbed it. I grabbed all the necessities and away I went. What a neat time
> > I had too.. Anyway back to business...

> > Hey,, we have got to keep this VR-5000 stuff/info on the boil as I always
> > thought that it was quite a lot more powerful than the weak manual
> > suggested. I am really glad to hear that Yaesu have decided to reprint the
> > manual. I just phoned my Yaesu outlet (they'r not really a Yaesu dealership
> > though) and they had never even thought to question the manual but he
> > hasn't heard anything from Yaesu yet on that... He will keep me informed
> > if/when any new literature arrives, he assures me.

> > Can you spare me a few minutes of your time to answer a few easy ones?

> > You say you have programmed about 400 frequencies into memory. What happens
> > when you get to memory 100+, since there are only 2 places for the digits
> > on the LCD panel. Presumably this would allow the use of  mem channels 00
> > to 99. Does the set automatically put the hundredth one into a new bank?
> > With only 2 digit places, memory channel 1000+ would also suffer the same
> > fate.. Do you get what I am asking??

> > Have you figured out how to divide the memory channels into banks? I
> > wouldn't mind having 20 banks of 100 channels.. I am hoping that I can do
> > this before I start grouping different types of received signals - police,
> > ambulance, fire, air traffic, business, TV, FM radio... that sort of thing.

> > How about actually deleting a memory and its contents? My manual shows how
> > to mask but not delete a mem channel...

> > There, that will keep me going until "next time". Hahahaha... Well, you
> > said  "I know" and now I might just be tapping you on the shoulder to say
> > "how do..?". I always did believe that the quickest way to learn was to
> > ask. Consider yourself lucky that you don't live in the same town as me.
> > Hahahahaha.!!!!

> > I like your suggestion on remebering which keys you pushed when you find
> > something new. ME,,, I am too scared to push any new keys to find out, at
> > the moment. Maybe soon I will work up the nerve to "explore".. You can bet
> > your boots though, that if I find something new,, it will be posted in here
> > the very next moment. I have lots of time to kill so I will wait for any
> > new developments from any source.

> > I have tried my VR-5000 on HF SSB but found it to be a few Hz off frequency
> > (about 100+ Hz). The 20 Hz adjustments at these frequnecies is too large
> > anyway. I like to be able to do an absolute minimum of 10 Hz adjustments. 1
> > Hz is even better for the real fussy listener but not totally necessay. My
> > ears can notice as little as about 5 Hz when tuning in on most USB
> > transmissions but when tuning 2 HF receivers side by side on the same
> > frequency, your ears can notice far less than even 1 single Hz with the 2
> > different audio signals acting against each other, creating a third signal
> > (unless they are both "spot on" with each other). This practise is very
> > good when making internal adjustments to some receivers. I don't encourage
> > this sort of activity though unless you are really self-confident.

> > I am going to copy and paste all info posted, into a VR-5000 file.

> > Hope to hear back from you or others asap........
> > Cheers until next time.......


> > >Hello News Group Community.. After programming in about 400 local
> > >frequencies I can now determine that the scan functions are first rate.
> > >The visual display of active frequencies, the ability to use the
> > >band-scope along with scanner functions is very useful. Sensitivity and
> > >selectivity continues to be outstanding on all frequencies. My JRC
> > >NRD-545 has the UHF converter built in. This is good up to 2 GHZ, but
> > >the unit does not HEAR what the VR-5000 hears. On a few stations I used
> > >for testing, the 545 showed a S-1 reading on a weak station from Mt
> > >Wilson in Los Angeles. That is about 125 miles as the crow flies. It was
> > >very static ridden and hard to understand. On the VR-5000 S-5 , loud and
> > >clear. I needed to PEAK the tunable RF peselector, and that made a BIG
> > >difference on this weak station at 461 Mhz. But then that is why they
> > >put the feature in the radio, to peak the RF front end for maximum RF
> > >gain.. Have a good weekend!! BTW, my antenna is a DISCONE made by Radio
> > >Shack.


> > >> It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
> > >> encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
> > >> cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
> > >> showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
> > >> Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
> > >> VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
> > >> operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
> > >> Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
> > >> things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
> > >> and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
> > >> on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
> > >> a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
> > >> a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!


> > >> > I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
> > >> > radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
> > >> > below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
> > >> > output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
> > >> > synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
> > >> > tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
> > >> > carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
> > >> > SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
> > >> > Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
> > >> > and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
> > >> > re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
> > >> > OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
> > >> > does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
> > >> > in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
> > >> > the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
> > >> > Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
> > >> > on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
> > >> > owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
> > >> > out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
> > >> > to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
> > >> > automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
> > >> > and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
> > >> > I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
> > >> > radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
> > >> > take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
> > >> > THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
> > >> > attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
> > >> > front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
> > >> > the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
> > >> > overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
> > >> > s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!! The reason is it gives the BAND SCOPE
> > >> > great vertical resolution. Showing not only the strong stations, but the
> > >> > weaker ones as well. The dynamic range of this scope is wonderful, far
> > >> > superior to the band scope used in the ICOM 756-PRO HF radio, costing
> > >> > $2700.00,, More to follow...


> > >> > > Has anybody in this NG any experience with this new Yaesu VR-5000 receiver.
> > >> > > Although it

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FEEDBACK on the Yaesu VR-5000!!

Post by Robert Lon » Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:37:34

I have given my impression of the VR-5000, anyone else like to
contribute to the VR-5000 radio or lets hear about your AOR-8600 if you
like!!

> David, your email did not work for me so I will reply this way...

> DPS, well I would play around it. DSP will work best with MODERATE
> adjustment on the band width. NR can be on  as well. I hear a
> significant improvement when I turn mine on??? This may be user
> preference. Each mode of operation, CW,SSB,AM etc. have its own DSP
> setting. ON AM I leave the 150 and 3000 KHZ function OFF and just use
> NR. On SSB I reduce the DSP bandwidth to 350 KHZ and 2300 KHZ with NR
> on. ON CW I set it at 400 and 1000 HZ. NR "off"... Let me know how it
> goes!!


> > Well I am short on time tonight but let me say this. You have a bank of
> > memories. That would be from 00 to 99, or 100 per bank. Then you have a
> > memory Group. 20 groups, or 20X100=2000 ... I have 14 groups at this
> > time or about 30 stations stored per group. Fire, police, US forestry,
> > Airplane, TV stations, CB radio, special ham radio nets etc. I have only
> > entered stuff, not tried to delete or over write anything... Got to run.
> > Very busy week ahead. Glad you had a chance to get out and relax!!


> > > Robert,,, Hi there again,,,
> > > Glad to see you up and posting so much info on the VR-5000. I would have
> > > been asking or at least, throwing in my 2 cents worth in the last few days
> > > but I have been away for the weekend. I thought I needed a break as, with
> > > my illness, I virtually haven't been able to leave this room for the past 3
> > > and a half years. A friend offerred me a small trip away so I quickly
> > > grabbed it. I grabbed all the necessities and away I went. What a neat time
> > > I had too.. Anyway back to business...

> > > Hey,, we have got to keep this VR-5000 stuff/info on the boil as I always
> > > thought that it was quite a lot more powerful than the weak manual
> > > suggested. I am really glad to hear that Yaesu have decided to reprint the
> > > manual. I just phoned my Yaesu outlet (they'r not really a Yaesu dealership
> > > though) and they had never even thought to question the manual but he
> > > hasn't heard anything from Yaesu yet on that... He will keep me informed
> > > if/when any new literature arrives, he assures me.

> > > Can you spare me a few minutes of your time to answer a few easy ones?

> > > You say you have programmed about 400 frequencies into memory. What happens
> > > when you get to memory 100+, since there are only 2 places for the digits
> > > on the LCD panel. Presumably this would allow the use of  mem channels 00
> > > to 99. Does the set automatically put the hundredth one into a new bank?
> > > With only 2 digit places, memory channel 1000+ would also suffer the same
> > > fate.. Do you get what I am asking??

> > > Have you figured out how to divide the memory channels into banks? I
> > > wouldn't mind having 20 banks of 100 channels.. I am hoping that I can do
> > > this before I start grouping different types of received signals - police,
> > > ambulance, fire, air traffic, business, TV, FM radio... that sort of thing.

> > > How about actually deleting a memory and its contents? My manual shows how
> > > to mask but not delete a mem channel...

> > > There, that will keep me going until "next time". Hahahaha... Well, you
> > > said  "I know" and now I might just be tapping you on the shoulder to say
> > > "how do..?". I always did believe that the quickest way to learn was to
> > > ask. Consider yourself lucky that you don't live in the same town as me.
> > > Hahahahaha.!!!!

> > > I like your suggestion on remebering which keys you pushed when you find
> > > something new. ME,,, I am too scared to push any new keys to find out, at
> > > the moment. Maybe soon I will work up the nerve to "explore".. You can bet
> > > your boots though, that if I find something new,, it will be posted in here
> > > the very next moment. I have lots of time to kill so I will wait for any
> > > new developments from any source.

> > > I have tried my VR-5000 on HF SSB but found it to be a few Hz off frequency
> > > (about 100+ Hz). The 20 Hz adjustments at these frequnecies is too large
> > > anyway. I like to be able to do an absolute minimum of 10 Hz adjustments. 1
> > > Hz is even better for the real fussy listener but not totally necessay. My
> > > ears can notice as little as about 5 Hz when tuning in on most USB
> > > transmissions but when tuning 2 HF receivers side by side on the same
> > > frequency, your ears can notice far less than even 1 single Hz with the 2
> > > different audio signals acting against each other, creating a third signal
> > > (unless they are both "spot on" with each other). This practise is very
> > > good when making internal adjustments to some receivers. I don't encourage
> > > this sort of activity though unless you are really self-confident.

> > > I am going to copy and paste all info posted, into a VR-5000 file.

> > > Hope to hear back from you or others asap........
> > > Cheers until next time.......


> > > >Hello News Group Community.. After programming in about 400 local
> > > >frequencies I can now determine that the scan functions are first rate.
> > > >The visual display of active frequencies, the ability to use the
> > > >band-scope along with scanner functions is very useful. Sensitivity and
> > > >selectivity continues to be outstanding on all frequencies. My JRC
> > > >NRD-545 has the UHF converter built in. This is good up to 2 GHZ, but
> > > >the unit does not HEAR what the VR-5000 hears. On a few stations I used
> > > >for testing, the 545 showed a S-1 reading on a weak station from Mt
> > > >Wilson in Los Angeles. That is about 125 miles as the crow flies. It was
> > > >very static ridden and hard to understand. On the VR-5000 S-5 , loud and
> > > >clear. I needed to PEAK the tunable RF peselector, and that made a BIG
> > > >difference on this weak station at 461 Mhz. But then that is why they
> > > >put the feature in the radio, to peak the RF front end for maximum RF
> > > >gain.. Have a good weekend!! BTW, my antenna is a DISCONE made by Radio
> > > >Shack.


> > > >> It keeps getting better! Continued operation of the VR-5000 is very
> > > >> encouraging. I did some testing on my 1.9 GHZ cellular phone and also my
> > > >> cordless phone. These are all digital but sensitivity was very good
> > > >> showing a FULL scale s-meter deflection from a low power cordless phone.
> > > >> Also the shape factors of the "3" AM filters are wonderful. Also, the
> > > >> VR-5000 has some neat MODE control. You can have up to 3 modes of
> > > >> operation when in SSB operation with AUTOMATIC functions implemented.
> > > >> Again, the operational manual is very poor. I am discovering a few
> > > >> things just by accident. They key is to remember what keys are presses
> > > >> and write it down. Many keys serve more than the "DUAL" functions shown
> > > >> on the key and above the key. Hitting they key twice can toggle it into
> > > >> a 3rd mode of operations... Well it is raining in Southern California so
> > > >> a good day to stay in and play with the radio!!


> > > >> > I just got mine on Thursday with all the options. I have several TOP END
> > > >> > radios to compare it to and so far so good. My test so far has been 100%
> > > >> > below 30 MHZ. I have been doing a few test by taking the 10.7 MHZ IF
> > > >> > output and feeding that into a JRC NRD-545 radio and using the AM
> > > >> > synchronous detector circuit on SWL stations. Works very good. I also
> > > >> > tuned in a few FM radio stations, and was able to tune the SCA sub
> > > >> > carrier information with the IF output hooked to the 545 radio. I have a
> > > >> > SM-220 station monitor that is factory stock at 8.8 MHZ input for IF.
> > > >> > Made for Kenwood radios. Since I have Yaesu HF radios for the HAM side,
> > > >> > and they don't offer IF outputs (most HF radios today do not??? ) I will
> > > >> > re-tune the SM-220 to 10.7 mhz and use it for some band scope functions.
> > > >> > OK, you may ask why since the VR-5000 has a VERY NICE band scope. It
> > > >> > does but only when the radio is in the single receive mode. When it is
> > > >> > in the DUAL BAND watch mode, the second receiver is used for monitoring
> > > >> > the second station , and not as a sweep tuner for the band scope. The
> > > >> > Memory functions are NEAT. Some of the best functions I have ever seen
> > > >> > on a scanner. I called Yaesu on Thursday and they are printing a NEW
> > > >> > owners manual as we speak because many folks just can't figure it all
> > > >> > out. Also MANY hidden features that are not mentioned. Like the ability
> > > >> > to SEARCh for a station, or watch for activity on a seldom used channel,
> > > >> > automatic activation of the Digital Voice Recorder, recording the audio
> > > >> > and storing it in memory for playback at a latter time, VERY NEAT!!!!
> > > >> > I will try and answer any and ALL email from the community about this
> > > >> > radio. Don't let complexity get in the way of sophistication. It will
> > > >> > take time to get use to it. The FRONT end of this radio is VERY HOT!!!
> > > >> > THe 20 DB attenuator is very handy, HOWEVER, I think even more
> > > >> > attenuation may be needed at times for strong utility stations. This HOT
> > > >> > front end lets it work great on just a small whip antenna attached to
> > > >> > the back. Using a 100 foot long wire antenna on AM broadcast can
> > > >> > overwhelm the radio. In many cases SWL station are FULL scale on the
> > > >> > s-meter. This is GREAT NEWS!!

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