ANTI SCANNING THREAT STILL ALIVE!

ANTI SCANNING THREAT STILL ALIVE!

Post by Bobwb3d » Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:00:00

To anyone who scans are operates a ham radio which can scan:

Please read the attached letter I sent to my congressman. Although the
 amendments to the bill are a good sign---THEY ARE NOT ENOUGH!. If we get
 lulled into believing our rights are protected, we are wrong.  

Eventually all public safety  and ham radio systems will use digital technology
 to modulate their signals. If  we allow the "modifyed" version of HR2369 to go
 thru our scanners will become useless--

Please write your Congressman today--Feel free to use the attached letter.

Bob Reynolds
WB3DYE

Dear Congressman Kanjorski:

     I am one of millions of Americans that use scanners for lawful and useful
purposes.  I am writing about H.R. 2369, introduced by Rep. Billy Tauzin
(R-LA).  As originally introduced, the legislation would have effectively
banned scanners.  I understand that the legislation has been substantially
reworded as requested by the Telecommunications Subcommittee and now
addresses many of the concerns of scanner users. I am still concerned that the
 bill as amended would prohibit scanners which can demodulate "digital"
 signals. Congressman as you know we are moving into the digital age.  I ask
 that you amend the legislation to wipe out the prohibition against
 demodulating digital signals. This would in effect make my scanner useless in
 about 10 years.  If a police agency for example wants to scramble it's signal,
 it
 still can do that.  I agree with that provision, but to ban the scanning of
 digital signals is still a very dangerous thing. I fear the federal goverment
 already has too much power.  This legislation, if not changed will in effect
 tell the American people for the first time, what they can and can not listen
 to! That's very dangerous in a free society!

     Please use you good offices to protect the legimitate use of scanners by
 an estimated four million law abiding American citizens.

Sincerely,

Robert Reynolds

 
 
 

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Post by Fred B. Rega » Thu, 13 Nov 1997 04:00:00


If any of you really value the scanning hobby let your Senator and
Congressman know not to vote for HR 2369. Some don't think much of it, but
it is probably the latest and greatest threat to a great hobby. If it
passes the House and then sent to the Senate, no doubt our "liberal and
politically correct" president will sign it into law. Don't ignore the
danger, Iam not just crying Wolf! The threat is real. Thanks for reading
this.
                                        Fred, N8DVO

 
 
 

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Post by Davi » Fri, 14 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
> That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.

  You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
going after our property.  
  Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
 

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Post by Michael Higgin » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00

What is this about? I haven't heard anything about it.



> >        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
> > That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.

>   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
> threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
> going after our property.
>   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
> FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

--
The old man was walking on the beach, where many starfish had washed
ashore.
He saw a little boy on the shoreline, throwing them back into the ocean.
The boy said 'They'll die if I don't get them back into the water.'
The man said 'Son, there are hundreds of starfish ashore. It's not going
to
make a difference.'  The boy picked up a starfish and threw it into the
water.
He turned to the man and said, 'It made a difference to that starfish.'
 
 
 

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Post by Dr. Bellow » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> What is this about? I haven't heard anything about it.



> > >        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
> > > That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.

> >   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
> > threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
> > going after our property.
> >   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
> > FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

> --
> The old man was walking on the beach, where many starfish had washed
> ashore.
> He saw a little boy on the shoreline, throwing them back into the ocean.
> The boy said 'They'll die if I don't get them back into the water.'
> The man said 'Son, there are hundreds of starfish ashore. It's not going
> to
> make a difference.'  The boy picked up a starfish and threw it into the
> water.
> He turned to the man and said, 'It made a difference to that starfish.'

I've got another one:
"A Democracy is three Wolves and a Sheep, voting on what to have for
Lunch."
 
 
 

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Post by Mr. Cle » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00


> >   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
> > threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
> > going after our property.
> >   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
> > FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

>   I'm not a fan of Democrats, but I really think Old Newt Gingrich is behind the
> scanner grab. He is the one who was illegally taped.

   And don't you just love the way these *** conservatives ignore
the fact that Tauzin is a republican? When will they realize the 2 party
system was created to give the illusion of choice at the voting booth?
 
 
 

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Post by David Hitchne » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00

|
|> >   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
|> > threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats
are
|> > going after our property.
|> >   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
|> > FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
|>
|>   I'm not a fan of Democrats, but I really think Old Newt Gingrich is
behind the
|> scanner grab. He is the one who was illegally taped.
|>
|   And don't you just love the way these *** conservatives ignore
|the fact that Tauzin is a republican? When will they realize the 2 party
|system was created to give the illusion of choice at the voting booth?

Is Newt backing the bill?  I have not heard.

I believe that Tauzin is one of those converted republicans that switch from
the democrats when the democrats started losing.

David M. Hitchner
Baton Rouge, LA

 
 
 

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Post by Doug Davi » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00



> >        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
> > That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.

>   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
> threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
> going after our property.
>   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
> FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

  I'm not a fan of Democrats, but I really think Old Newt Gingrich is behind the
scanner grab. He is the one who was illegally taped.

DRD

 
 
 

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Post by Darrell A. Laro » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00



>>        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
>> That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.

>   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
> threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
> going after our property.  
>   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
> FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

Just bear in mind that the original 1984 ECPA was passed during the Reagan
administration. The 1994 ammendment was passed by a Republican controlled
House. So it appears no one in either House likes scanners!!!


        "Living at risk is jumping off the cliff
            and building your wings on the way down" (Ray Bradbury)

 
 
 

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Post by Jeff Ka » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00


: >
: > >        "No man's property is safe while Congress is in session.".
: > > That old adage has become as true for 'freedoms' as it is for property, of late.
: > >
: >
: >   You are so right!  Not only has uncle bill commie clinton become a
: > threat to our freedoms, but now, his friends and do-gooder democrats are
: > going after our property.
: >   Next year will be congressional elections, and I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE
: > FOR A DEMOCRAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

:   I'm not a fan of Democrats, but I really think Old Newt Gingrich is behind the
: scanner grab. He is the one who was illegally taped.

: DRD

Not only that, but if it passes (I have not been watching it that closely),
you have to think about who has a majority in congress!  That means it is
the republicans who will be making it a law.  Not the democrats.  They
can't stop it from happening, only the republicans can do that.  Think about
that for a minute before bad mouthing an organization.

Vote independent next time.  Maybe we can shake 'em up enough to get them to
listen to us the people for a while at least.  Better yet, Run for office!

--

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Post by JTWard » Sat, 15 Nov 1997 04:00:00


>I was under the impression that it had been 'fixed'.  I thought that Tauzin

 had been quoted as saying that he had got the amatuer/hobbyist/LEO/Firefighter
 message loud and clear, and was re-writing the bill to accomodate our
 concerns.

Tom, and others,

While the new version of H.R. 2369 is much improved, there are still several
 questions unanswered.

First, the new H.R. 2369 has a provision not included in the first bill that
 bans scanners capable of converting digital transmissions to analog voice
 audio. This may prohibit the development of scanners capable of monitoring
 Ericsson EDACS and Motorola ASTRO public safety systems.

Second, although the exemptions included in chapter 119 have been incorporated
 into H.R. 2369 there some question about what is covered by those exemptions,
 particularly in the shortwave spectrum.

Finally, although the scope of H.R. 2369 has been narrowed from commercial
 mobile radio service to cellular and PCS only we still haven't been advised
 exactly what frequencies will be effected.

We've made headway, and Tauzin has been very responsive to out concerns, no
 doubt about it. But the battle still has not been completely won.

John Ward

 
 
 

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Post by Greg Dea » Sun, 16 Nov 1997 04:00:00



> > Vote independent next time.  Maybe we can shake 'em up enough to
> > get them to listen to us the people for a while at least.

>         Yeah! RIGHT! What the country really needs right now is The Little
> General stirring things up in the hopes of getting Democrats elected.
> What a schmuck!
> --
> =====================================================================

I am becoming convinced that Perot works for the democrats.  He always
steps in to swing the election their way.  He seems to pull the Reagan
democrats out of the election.

However, if he should be able to win a law suit that would open the
process to third parties, he would be doing us all a favor.  And third
parties would distroy the Democratic Party as it is a mix of groups that
have little in common.  The Greens would be the first to leave.

Remember, the Germans have 26 parties and most Germans say that even
with so many parties, nothing changes!!

Get your newpaper fired up about HR 2369 and HR 1964.  It is their
scanners too that will banned.