Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by fjsie.. » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Hi,

I was wondering how strong the signals are in communications between
planes and controllers either on approach or departure from airports.
If I live about 20 miles away from a major metropolitan airport would
I need to get a better antenna than that which comes with a handheld
scanner or would it usually be sufficient?  I'm trying to figure out
all of this before purchasing one.

Cheers,
Felix

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Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by Snowba » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00


Quote:> I was wondering how strong the signals are in communications between
> planes and controllers either on approach or departure from airports.

Not very strong.  The Icom IC-A200 transceiver produces 7 Watts.
Considering aviation communications on VHF are line-of-sight, this is
sufficient for air-ground communications of >100 miles.

Quote:> If I live about 20 miles away from a major metropolitan airport would
> I need to get a better antenna than that which comes with a handheld
> scanner or would it usually be sufficient?  I'm trying to figure out
> all of this before purchasing one.

You shouldn't have any problems hearing aircraft in the air.  Whether or not
you'll be able to hear the tower depends on the terrain between you and the
airport.

I'm in an urban location about 6 miles from the local airport.  I can't hear
the tower at all using a *** duck or telescopic antenna.  I can get the
tower at reasonable strength by connecting my discone antenna mounted on the
roof.

Occasionally I take a trip to the airport perimeter fence with my handheld.
Its nice to see what's going on as you listen and there's a good view of the
main runway.  Usually there's a bunch of aircraft spotters and other scanner
enthusiasts there too!

 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by <lo.. » Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I live about 20 miles from LAX and pick up aviation traffic.
110.9000
119.9500
124.9000

Hope this helps.


Quote:> > I was wondering how strong the signals are in communications between
> > planes and controllers either on approach or departure from airports.

> Not very strong.  The Icom IC-A200 transceiver produces 7 Watts.
> Considering aviation communications on VHF are line-of-sight, this is
> sufficient for air-ground communications of >100 miles.

> > If I live about 20 miles away from a major metropolitan airport would
> > I need to get a better antenna than that which comes with a handheld
> > scanner or would it usually be sufficient?  I'm trying to figure out
> > all of this before purchasing one.

> You shouldn't have any problems hearing aircraft in the air.  Whether or
not
> you'll be able to hear the tower depends on the terrain between you and
the
> airport.

> I'm in an urban location about 6 miles from the local airport.  I can't
hear
> the tower at all using a *** duck or telescopic antenna.  I can get the
> tower at reasonable strength by connecting my discone antenna mounted on
the
> roof.

> Occasionally I take a trip to the airport perimeter fence with my
handheld.
> Its nice to see what's going on as you listen and there's a good view of
the
> main runway.  Usually there's a bunch of aircraft spotters and other
scanner
> enthusiasts there too!

 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by joe » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

If you live 20 miles from the airport, it should be very difficult or rearly
impossible to listen to the tower with a *** duck. However, you should be
able to copy most airborn traffic with a problem. Aircraft radios transmit
50 watts max. With some altitude, this is enough to hear from your location.
A "better" *** duck or whip will not make that much difference in
reception. I would definitely use an outside antenna. Good luck.

--
Joe H
Miami Lakes, Florida

"It's fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney

Quote:> Hi,

> I was wondering how strong the signals are in communications between
> planes and controllers either on approach or departure from airports.
> If I live about 20 miles away from a major metropolitan airport would
> I need to get a better antenna than that which comes with a handheld
> scanner or would it usually be sufficient?  I'm trying to figure out
> all of this before purchasing one.

> Cheers,
> Felix

> p.s. If you want to reply via e-mail please change the .xae to .ca

 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by Bud » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I had the same problem with a Radio Shack scanner years ago. I eventually
purchased another scanner and could hear the airport comms at my home
approximately 15 miles away with no problem. Stay away from Radio Shack and
Bearcat scanners at all costs!


Quote:> I live approximately 5 miles from Logan Airport in Boston, MA. I can't
> listen to the tower at all...even with a telescoping antenna for my Pro-
> 91. I will say that I can hear the aircraft quite well though. I don't
> have a roof antenna, so if i want to listen to the tower i must go to
> the airport...sounds like at 20+ miles...your bumming..

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by MooNPu » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I live approximately 5 miles from Logan Airport in Boston, MA. I can't
listen to the tower at all...even with a telescoping antenna for my Pro-
91. I will say that I can hear the aircraft quite well though. I don't
have a roof antenna, so if i want to listen to the tower i must go to
the airport...sounds like at 20+ miles...your bumming..

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by LCC » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> I live approximately 5 miles from Logan Airport in Boston, MA. I can't
> listen to the tower at all...even with a telescoping antenna for my Pro-
> 91. I will say that I can hear the aircraft quite well though. I don't
> have a roof antenna, so if i want to listen to the tower i must go to
> the airport...sounds like at 20+ miles...your bumming..

> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Towers are usually a hard catch. Don't they only operate up to a certain power
limit? By the way, military aviation is nice to listen in too. :)
 
 
 

Picking up aviation traffic with a handheld (Bearcat 245XLT)

Post by lynd » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00


> If you live 20 miles from the airport, it should be very difficult or
rearly
> impossible to listen to the tower with a *** duck. > --SNIP

Not my experience - Using a PRO-60 handheld  and *** duck I can hear LGA
control tower which is about 25 miles from my location. Also hear JFK which
is about 15 miles away, Republic which is probably 35 miles east.

Of course, using a discone gives better reception.

Good luck,

lyndx