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>> >> >> >> > In article


>> >> >> >> >>> If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited
>> >> >> >> >>> to
>> >> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >> >>> com
>> >> >> >> >>> systems still out there.

>> >> >> >> >> That could very well be, and satisfaction depends on what you
>> >> >> >> >> want
>> >> >> >> >> out
>> >> >> >> >> of your radio, but I can see no valid reason for buying a new
>> >> >> >> >> scanner
>> >> >> >> >> today ... especially the ones castrated by FCC fascism. I
>> >> >> >> >> managed
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> acquire a brand new full coverage MK3 in 2004 thinking I
>> >> >> >> >> landed
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> prize of a lifetime, but if I could get half of what I paid
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> it,
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> sell it tomorrow.

>> >> >> >> > LOL, cellphones? Well, that's a boat that's sailed, and never
>> >> >> >> > coming
>> >> >> >> > back. My 2004 does fine on all the PS and RR stuff I listen
>> >> >> >> > to.

>> >> >> >> > Cell calls were hilarious, but there was more to listen to
>> >> >> >> > than
>> >> >> >> > that.

>> >> >> >> > BDK

>> >> >> >> I found that the novelty of monitoring cellphones wore off
>> >> >> >> rather
>> >> >> >> quickly
>> >> >> >> anyway.

>> >> >> > Some people must live in a very dull town...;)

>> >> >> > BDK

>> >> >> There is "tons" of stuff to hear on my scanner - here. Admittedly -
>> >> >> there
>> >> >> are "some" quiet times - and others - you sort of wish they'd shut
>> >> >> up -
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> you don't dare turn it off or the volume down.

>> >> >> Cell phones - are boring - to me. I could care less what others are
>> >> >> talking
>> >> >> about. It's none of my concern or business. I am not listening for
>> >> >> "private"
>> >> >> information - either. When I "did" have a cell phone capable
>> >> >> scanner -
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> heard lots of ***s - the exchange something to this effect - "Hi -
>> >> >> Hi!
>> >> >> Whatcha doing? Nothing whatchu doing? Nothing..... What's going on?
>> >> >> Nothing,
>> >> >> you? Nothing! You going out partying tonight? I am. Yeah - I am
>> >> >> too.....
>> >> >> And
>> >> >> shortly the conversation would end with equal exchanges of same
>> >> >> questions/remarks. BORING.............. A waste of cell time and
>> >> >> money -
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> my opinion. I hate when people call me on mine just to ask stupid
>> >> >> questions
>> >> >> or tell me things I could care less about. Especially - when they
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> tell
>> >> >> me later in person - as if I'm yet interested.  The other calls I
>> >> >> witnessed
>> >> >> were arguments, contractor calls, etc. All ***(to me) - I could
>> >> >> live
>> >> >> without.

>> >> >> Just my 2 cents.

>> >> > Everyone has their likes and dislikes. But I do have to wonder what
>> >> > is
>> >> > going on with people who say there isn't anything to listen to
>> >> > "anymore". My scanner is almost nonstop action 24/7/365. The only
>> >> > negative compared to the "old days" is the fact I don't have an
>> >> > insane
>> >> > amount of radios, in case a huge disaster happens. A few times over
>> >> > the
>> >> > years, I have had a dozen scanners and receivers going all at once,
>> >> > keeping track of everything that was happening.

>> >> > Now I'm down to three, soon to be four.

>> >> > BDK

>> >> Yeah, you're right......... I guess my point is, I'm not one to "talk"
>> >> on
>> >> a
>> >> phone so - could care less when people are talking - for me to care to
>> >> listen. Their chatter is boring. I mean - even cordless phone - old
>> >> ladies
>> >> exhanging recipies and so on. WHO CARES! The Scanner provides way too
>> >> much
>> >> to listen to.

>> > Seriously, people must have been talking about totally different stuff
>> > where you are. There was some amazingly great stuff.

>> >> I am involved in many positions here - which is why I don't dare turn
>> >> my
>> >> scanner down. It is "usually" busy - but some days it seems the shit
>> >> hits
>> >> the fan and there is so much going on - it is hard to keep up with it
>> >> all. I
>> >> monitor 2 other counties aside from my own - as often things there -
>> >> unfold
>> >> for us here.

>> > I lived in Las Vegas when the MGM Grand Hotel burned, and I had every
>> > single scanner and tunable PSB radio I had listening to it. My "big"
>> > scanner was a Bearcat 210, and as soon as I found a busy freq, I tuned
>> > one of my old "Monitoradios" that was sitting in the closet until then
>> > to it..I sure wish I had one 200 channel scanner then, it sure would
>> > have made it easier.

>> > My girlfriend at the time got hooked on scanning that day. Every so
>> > often, she asks me if she needs an upgrade, and when it's time, buys
>> > it,
>> > and a friend of mine programs it for her. The older scanner is moved to
>> > her kid's bedroom, she's hooked too.

>> > BDK

>> That is so cool - your girl friend is hooked! Most women don't go for
>> that
>> stuff. I got a BC 210 or two down in my heap pile now....... They were
>> nice
>> to have back then. I can't recall having a "Monitoradio" - however - I
>> have
>> seen them. I do have a Realistic Tuneable receiver - covering a PSB band
>> or
>> two.
>> It has a crystal socket or two also - in case you want to make it rock
>> bound.

> My Ex-GF, sadly. Her dad hated me so much that about the time we were
> about to get engaged, we had to break up. He liked the loser that she
> ended up marrying, until he cheated on her, and gambled a ton of money
> away. Then I wasn't so bad, I guess. She's single now, with a kid in
> college and sometimes I think I will go back to Vegas to see what
> happens with her. You never know.

> You might not be old enough to have been around when the Monitoradios
> were really common. I bought about 20 of them at garage sales and
> hamfests from about 1968 to 1978. Most were retired after I bought my
> Bearcat III, the rest were put into the closet when I bought my 210 for
> 40 bucks! Some guy lost his ******, and needed money to drive
> home. It was 2 weeks old, and I got everything but the mobile bracket.

> The monitoradios are long gone now. The heat they threw off was insane,
> and with about 12 of them running at once, plus a TV, a couple of
> crystal scanners, and the 210, my bedroom got hot as hell within
> minutes. We didn't care. We had a few of them on an extension cord to
> keep from tripping the breaker.

> Nice looking one that was recently sold:

> http://www.redwaveradio.com/
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> Z1QQcmdZViewItem

> BDK

>> There are some agencies who have converted their systems to digital which
>> can cost tens of millions of dollars depending on size. Uniden came out
>> with the BCD396T which will pick up digital as long as it's not
>> encrypted.

>> Many of the larger public agencies are using computers in their mobile
>> units to communicate without using voice.

>> I weighed this issue before buying new scanners and I figure we have
>> quite some time before the digital age takes over public communications
>> completely.

>> If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to the com
>> systems still out there.

> You got it- all the public safety agencies around here converted to
> encrypted trunked. (which they are having a lot of trouble getting to work
> like the vendor claimed it would.) Not much on conventional VHF/UHF around
> here any more. The ten-call-a-day users have all switched to cell  phones,
> and I don't have much interest in listening to taxi dispatchers and mall
> rentacops. Next garage sale, most of the scanners are going bye-bye.

> aem sends....

> > There are some agencies who have converted their systems to digital which
> > can cost tens of millions of dollars depending on size. Uniden came out
> > with the BCD396T which will pick up digital as long as it's not encrypted.

> > Many of the larger public agencies are using computers in their mobile
> > units to communicate without using voice.

> > I weighed this issue before buying new scanners and I figure we have quite
> > some time before the digital age takes over public communications
> > completely.

> > If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to the com
> > systems still out there.

> You got it- all the public safety agencies around here converted to
> encrypted trunked. (which they are having a lot of trouble getting to work
> like the vendor claimed it would.) Not much on conventional VHF/UHF around
> here any more. The ten-call-a-day users have all switched to cell  phones,
> and I don't have much interest in listening to taxi dispatchers and mall
> rentacops. Next garage sale, most of the scanners are going bye-bye.

> aem sends....

>>> >>> If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to
>>> >>> the com
>>> >>> systems still out there.

>>> >> That could very well be, and satisfaction depends on what you want
>>> >> out of your radio, but I can see no valid reason for buying a new
>>> >> scanner today ... especially the ones castrated by FCC fascism. I
>>> >> managed to acquire a brand new full coverage MK3 in 2004 thinking I
>>> >> landed the prize of a lifetime, but if I could get half of what I
>>> >> paid for it, I sell it tomorrow.

>>> > LOL, cellphones? Well, that's a boat that's sailed, and never coming
>>> > back. My 2004 does fine on all the PS and RR stuff I listen to.

>>> > Cell calls were hilarious, but there was more to listen to than
>>> > that.

>>> > BDK

>>> I found that the novelty of monitoring cellphones wore off rather
>>> quickly anyway.

>> Some people must live in a very dull town...;)

>> BDK

> There is "tons" of stuff to hear on my scanner - here. Admittedly -
> there are "some" quiet times - and others - you sort of wish they'd shut
> up - but you don't dare turn it off or the volume down.

> Cell phones - are boring - to me. I could care less what others are
> talking about. It's none of my concern or business. I am not listening
> for "private" information - either. When I "did" have a cell phone
> capable scanner - I heard lots of ***s - the exchange something to this
> effect - "Hi - Hi! Whatcha doing? Nothing whatchu doing? Nothing.....
> What's going on? Nothing, you? Nothing! You going out partying tonight?
> I am. Yeah - I am too..... And shortly the conversation would end with
> equal exchanges of same questions/remarks. BORING.............. A waste
> of cell time and money - in my opinion. I hate when people call me on
> mine just to ask stupid questions or tell me things I could care less
> about. Especially - when they could tell me later in person - as if I'm
> yet interested.  The other calls I witnessed were arguments, contractor
> calls, etc. All ***(to me) - I could live without.

> Just my 2 cents.

> >> >> >> >> > In article


> >> >> >> >> >>> If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited
> >> >> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >> >> >>> com
> >> >> >> >> >>> systems still out there.

> >> >> >> >> >> That could very well be, and satisfaction depends on what you
> >> >> >> >> >> want
> >> >> >> >> >> out
> >> >> >> >> >> of your radio, but I can see no valid reason for buying a new
> >> >> >> >> >> scanner
> >> >> >> >> >> today ... especially the ones castrated by FCC fascism. I
> >> >> >> >> >> managed
> >> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> >> acquire a brand new full coverage MK3 in 2004 thinking I
> >> >> >> >> >> landed
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> prize of a lifetime, but if I could get half of what I paid
> >> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> >> it,
> >> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> sell it tomorrow.

> >> >> >> >> > LOL, cellphones? Well, that's a boat that's sailed, and never
> >> >> >> >> > coming
> >> >> >> >> > back. My 2004 does fine on all the PS and RR stuff I listen
> >> >> >> >> > to.

> >> >> >> >> > Cell calls were hilarious, but there was more to listen to
> >> >> >> >> > than
> >> >> >> >> > that.

> >> >> >> >> > BDK

> >> >> >> >> I found that the novelty of monitoring cellphones wore off
> >> >> >> >> rather
> >> >> >> >> quickly
> >> >> >> >> anyway.

> >> >> >> > Some people must live in a very dull town...;)

> >> >> >> > BDK

> >> >> >> There is "tons" of stuff to hear on my scanner - here. Admittedly -
> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> are "some" quiet times - and others - you sort of wish they'd shut
> >> >> >> up -
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> you don't dare turn it off or the volume down.

> >> >> >> Cell phones - are boring - to me. I could care less what others are
> >> >> >> talking
> >> >> >> about. It's none of my concern or business. I am not listening for
> >> >> >> "private"
> >> >> >> information - either. When I "did" have a cell phone capable
> >> >> >> scanner -
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> heard lots of ***s - the exchange something to this effect - "Hi -
> >> >> >> Hi!
> >> >> >> Whatcha doing? Nothing whatchu doing? Nothing..... What's going on?
> >> >> >> Nothing,
> >> >> >> you? Nothing! You going out partying tonight? I am. Yeah - I am
> >> >> >> too.....
> >> >> >> And
> >> >> >> shortly the conversation would end with equal exchanges of same
> >> >> >> questions/remarks. BORING.............. A waste of cell time and
> >> >> >> money -
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> my opinion. I hate when people call me on mine just to ask stupid
> >> >> >> questions
> >> >> >> or tell me things I could care less about. Especially - when they
> >> >> >> could
> >> >> >> tell
> >> >> >> me later in person - as if I'm yet interested.  The other calls I
> >> >> >> witnessed
> >> >> >> were arguments, contractor calls, etc. All ***(to me) - I could
> >> >> >> live
> >> >> >> without.

> >> >> >> Just my 2 cents.

> >> >> > Everyone has their likes and dislikes. But I do have to wonder what
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > going on with people who say there isn't anything to listen to
> >> >> > "anymore". My scanner is almost nonstop action 24/7/365. The only
> >> >> > negative compared to the "old days" is the fact I don't have an
> >> >> > insane
> >> >> > amount of radios, in case a huge disaster happens. A few times over
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > years, I have had a dozen scanners and receivers going all at once,
> >> >> > keeping track of everything that was happening.

> >> >> > Now I'm down to three, soon to be four.

> >> >> > BDK

> >> >> Yeah, you're right......... I guess my point is, I'm not one to "talk"
> >> >> on
> >> >> a
> >> >> phone so - could care less when people are talking - for me to care to
> >> >> listen. Their chatter is boring. I mean - even cordless phone - old
> >> >> ladies
> >> >> exhanging recipies and so on. WHO CARES! The Scanner provides way too
> >> >> much
> >> >> to listen to.

> >> > Seriously, people must have been talking about totally different stuff
> >> > where you are. There was some amazingly great stuff.

> >> >> I am involved in many positions here - which is why I don't dare turn
> >> >> my
> >> >> scanner down. It is "usually" busy - but some days it seems the shit
> >> >> hits
> >> >> the fan and there is so much going on - it is hard to keep up with it
> >> >> all. I
> >> >> monitor 2 other counties aside from my own - as often things there -
> >> >> unfold
> >> >> for us here.

> >> > I lived in Las Vegas when the MGM Grand Hotel burned, and I had every
> >> > single scanner and tunable PSB radio I had listening to it. My "big"
> >> > scanner was a Bearcat 210, and as soon as I found a busy freq, I tuned
> >> > one of my old "Monitoradios" that was sitting in the closet until then
> >> > to it..I sure wish I had one 200 channel scanner then, it sure would
> >> > have made it easier.

> >> > My girlfriend at the time got hooked on scanning that day. Every so
> >> > often, she asks me if she needs an upgrade, and when it's time, buys
> >> > it,
> >> > and a friend of mine programs it for her. The older scanner is moved to
> >> > her kid's bedroom, she's hooked too.

> >> > BDK

> >> That is so cool - your girl friend is hooked! Most women don't go for
> >> that
> >> stuff. I got a BC 210 or two down in my heap pile now....... They were
> >> nice
> >> to have back then. I can't recall having a "Monitoradio" - however - I
> >> have
> >> seen them. I do have a Realistic Tuneable receiver - covering a PSB band
> >> or
> >> two.
> >> It has a crystal socket or two also - in case you want to make it rock
> >> bound.

> > My Ex-GF, sadly. Her dad hated me so much that about the time we were
> > about to get engaged, we had to break up. He liked the loser that she
> > ended up marrying, until he cheated on her, and gambled a ton of money
> > away. Then I wasn't so bad, I guess. She's single now, with a kid in
> > college and sometimes I think I will go back to Vegas to see what
> > happens with her. You never know.

> > You might not be old enough to have been around when the Monitoradios
> > were really common. I bought about 20 of them at garage sales and
> > hamfests from about 1968 to 1978. Most were retired after I bought my
> > Bearcat III, the rest were put into the closet when I bought my 210 for
> > 40 bucks! Some guy lost his ******, and needed money to drive
> > home. It was 2 weeks old, and I got everything but the mobile bracket.

> > The monitoradios are long gone now. The heat they threw off was insane,
> > and with about 12 of them running at once, plus a TV, a couple of
> > crystal scanners, and the 210, my bedroom got hot as hell within
> > minutes. We didn't care. We had a few of them on an extension cord to
> > keep from tripping the breaker.

> > Nice looking one that was recently sold:

> > http://www.redwaveradio.com/
> > tubes_W0QQitemZ290153622590QQihZ019QQcategoryZ15051QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd
> > Z1QQcmdZViewItem

> > BDK

> Yeah, I recall some of those. Have a couple older Regency radios downstairs
> by my bench, not to mention some of their MCA units and others.

> >>> >>> If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to
> >>> >>> the com
> >>> >>> systems still out there.

> >>> >> That could very well be, and satisfaction depends on what you want
> >>> >> out of your radio, but I can see no valid reason for buying a new
> >>> >> scanner today ... especially the ones castrated by FCC fascism. I
> >>> >> managed to acquire a brand new full coverage MK3 in 2004 thinking I
> >>> >> landed the prize of a lifetime, but if I could get half of what I
> >>> >> paid for it, I sell it tomorrow.

> >>> > LOL, cellphones? Well, that's a boat that's sailed, and never coming
> >>> > back. My 2004 does fine on all the PS and RR stuff I listen to.

> >>> > Cell calls were hilarious, but there was more to listen to than
> >>> > that.

> >>> > BDK

> >>> I found that the novelty of monitoring cellphones wore off rather
> >>> quickly anyway.

> >> Some people must live in a very dull town...;)

> >> BDK

> > There is "tons" of stuff to hear on my scanner - here. Admittedly -
> > there are "some" quiet times - and others - you sort of wish they'd shut
> > up - but you don't dare turn it off or the volume down.

> > Cell phones - are boring - to me. I could care less what others are
> > talking about. It's none of my concern or business. I am not listening
> > for "private" information - either. When I "did" have a cell phone
> > capable scanner - I heard lots of ***s - the exchange something to this
> > effect - "Hi - Hi! Whatcha doing? Nothing whatchu doing? Nothing.....
> > What's going on? Nothing, you? Nothing! You going out partying tonight?
> > I am. Yeah - I am too..... And shortly the conversation would end with
> > equal exchanges of same questions/remarks. BORING.............. A waste
> > of cell time and money - in my opinion. I hate when people call me on
> > mine just to ask stupid questions or tell me things I could care less
> > about. Especially - when they could tell me later in person - as if I'm
> > yet interested.  The other calls I witnessed were arguments, contractor
> > calls, etc. All ***(to me) - I could live without.

> > Just my 2 cents.

> I used to read an hour or two before going to sleep every night, and listen
> to cell phones with my headphones on while I was doing so.
> Plenty of cell phone sex, heated arguments, threats, spouse cheating,
> crimes being planned and committed, drunks actually crashing while talking
> on the phone, and lots more.
> Plenty of boring ones also - Thats why they put search keys on scanners.
> All and all pretty entertaining.

>> > There are some agencies who have converted their systems to digital
>> > which
>> > can cost tens of millions of dollars depending on size. Uniden came out
>> > with the BCD396T which will pick up digital as long as it's not
>> > encrypted.

>> > Many of the larger public agencies are using computers in their mobile
>> > units to communicate without using voice.

>> > I weighed this issue before buying new scanners and I figure we have
>> > quite
>> > some time before the digital age takes over public communications
>> > completely.

>> > If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to the com
>> > systems still out there.

>> You got it- all the public safety agencies around here converted to
>> encrypted trunked. (which they are having a lot of trouble getting to
>> work
>> like the vendor claimed it would.) Not much on conventional VHF/UHF
>> around
>> here any more. The ten-call-a-day users have all switched to cell
>> phones,
>> and I don't have much interest in listening to taxi dispatchers and mall
>> rentacops. Next garage sale, most of the scanners are going bye-bye.

>> aem sends....

> What area is this? There aren't all that many encrypted digital trunk
> systems out there. Are you sure it's just no APCO25?

> >> > There are some agencies who have converted their systems to digital
> >> > which
> >> > can cost tens of millions of dollars depending on size. Uniden came out
> >> > with the BCD396T which will pick up digital as long as it's not
> >> > encrypted.

> >> > Many of the larger public agencies are using computers in their mobile
> >> > units to communicate without using voice.

> >> > I weighed this issue before buying new scanners and I figure we have
> >> > quite
> >> > some time before the digital age takes over public communications
> >> > completely.

> >> > If you feel it's dead, it's because you must be very limited to the com
> >> > systems still out there.

> >> You got it- all the public safety agencies around here converted to
> >> encrypted trunked. (which they are having a lot of trouble getting to
> >> work
> >> like the vendor claimed it would.) Not much on conventional VHF/UHF
> >> around
> >> here any more. The ten-call-a-day users have all switched to cell
> >> phones,
> >> and I don't have much interest in listening to taxi dispatchers and mall
> >> rentacops. Next garage sale, most of the scanners are going bye-bye.

> >> aem sends....

> > What area is this? There aren't all that many encrypted digital trunk
> > systems out there. Are you sure it's just no APCO25?

> Southwest MI, Calhoun county. All the local PDs have jumped on the State of
> MI 800 digital trunked system, and they all decided to run encrypted from
> the get-go. Fire will switch as soon as they line up funding. Trouble is,
> they only have 2 local towers, so coverage is very spotty. It was even
> written up in the local paper, although the paper never reported on what
> sort of fix they came up with. I happen to manage a vanilla vhf system used
> in an office building, with a repeater in the mechanical room on the roof. I
> keep expecting another repeater to magically appear up there, seeing as how
> the landlord doesn't keep us in the loop on these things, and the building
> is the tallest thing on that side of town.

> If they were running in the clear, I'd spring the 500 bucks for the RS (GRE)
> or Bearcat? scanner that can decipher the system. Looking at the online
> listings, at least a third of the subscribers to this statewide system are
> running encrypted, including pretty much everyone within 40 miles of here.

> aem sends...

> > I noticed that GRE America will be releasing there own branded scanners in
> > October. Does this mean that RadioShack is abandoning the scanner radio market
> > after all these years or will they be selling the GRE scanners at their stores
> > still?

> > TIA

> RS closed 100's of stores and I can get very little out of my
> unblocked MK3 any more, so it would make sense.

> The market (like this group) is DEAD, because the joys of scanning (as
> we all once knew it) is FINISHED.