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I just noticed that Bill Cheek has a new scanner mod book out. Is it
worth buying? I have a Pro 2006 and was planning on doing a little work
on it. I have the first two and was planning on doing several of the
projects. Should I get this one too?

Grant Hopper

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>I just noticed that Bill Cheek has a new scanner mod book out. Is it
>worth buying? I have a Pro 2006 and was planning on doing a little
work
>on it. I have the first two and was planning on doing several of the
>projects. Should I get this one too?

>Grant Hopper

Grant

I have read through Cheek 3: The Ultimate Scanner and did not think it
to be worthwhile especially if you have the first two books.  There is
really nothing new unless you plan on using the HB 232 for a computer
interface.  With the OS 456 out there I don't see the need for the HB
232.  I am not sure why Bill wrote this book it seems to be more of an
ego trip than a scanner book, in my humble opinion.  The copy I
recieved was for review for the Minnesota DX Club, I.m glad I did not
have to pay to see it.  
This should raise some dander!  Any other opinions of Cheek 3 out
there?

Greg Renner
Secretary of the Minnesota DX Club
Opinions are mine and no one elses.

GR

: There is
: really nothing new unless you plan on using the HB 232 for a computer
: interface.  With the OS 456 out there I don't see the need for the HB
: 232.  

Okay, I seem to remember hearing awhile back that there was a version
of the HB-232 interface available for the PRO-43.  I haven't heard anything
about it lately, so my questions are:

        1)  Is this true?

        2)  If so, are they still available?  Where?

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: I just noticed that Bill Cheek has a new scanner mod book out. Is it
: worth buying? I have a Pro 2006 and was planning on doing a little work
: on it. I have the first two and was planning on doing several of the
: projects. Should I get this one too?

Hi Grant!

I wouldn't recommend the book that Bill Cheek has put out at all.  All
the mods are available elswhere (like the Internet, packet radio, etc.)
for nothing and you are more likely to find new and up-to-date
modifications that are devoid of errors.  I noticed in one of Cheek's
books that all the mod's had a disclaimer under them.  I think that
should tell you something.  

Also, Bill Cheek's behaviour on the FidoNet Scanner group is digraceful ,
disgusting and disrespectful so I would strongly discourage anyone from
purchasing any his products.  Cheek clearly has a problem with certain
minority groups as well as anyone politically left-of-center.  If you do,
decide to purchase one of his products, I sincerely hope that you don't
have any problems with it.

Cheers!

Andy

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According to Cheek 3 the CE 232 (no longer called the HB 232) works on
the PRO 200X series of scanners and he needs to be contacted in person
for the CD 232 use on other scanners.  Now if you read chapter 1 of
Cheek 3 contacting him is no easy task, so I do not know what all that
means or how easy it is to hook the CD 232 or a modified version to the
PRO 43.

Greg Renner
Secretary of the Minnesota DX Club
Opinions are mine not the Club's

GR

Yo! Andy-Dandi:  

GH> I just noticed that Bill Cheek has a new scanner mod book out. Is
GH> it worth buying? I have a Pro 2006 and was planning on doing a
GH> little work on it. I have the first two and was planning on doing
GH> several  of the projects. Should I get this one too?

AM>Hi Grant! I wouldn't recommend the book that Bill Cheek put out at
all.

Oh?  Do tell.  Why not?  Do you have a copy of the ULTIMATE SCANNER?
Or, are you up to your old tricks again?  Let's read on and see, eh?

AM> All the mods are available elswhere (like the Internet, packet
radio,
AM> etc.)  for nothing and you are more likely to find new and
up-to-date
AM> modifications that are devoid of errors.

Why, Andy, that is patently untrue.  "All the mods..." are not
available elsewhere and certainly not "for nothing", for several
reasons.  Neither is there any likelihood for finding newer,
error-free mods, either.  Sure, new stuff comes around all the
time.....but not error-free!  In any event, you won't be finding many
of my mods "newer" anywhere else.  You will find my work
plagiarized here and there......

AM> I noticed in one of Cheek's  books that all the mod's had a
disclaimer
AM> under them.  I think that  should tell you something.

Now you're lying.  Though it is true that I will not take
responsibility for work performed by others where I have no control.
Do you?  In any case, you lied to the fellow.  My books do not put
"disclaimers" under every mod.  Just a  general disclaimer of
responsibility in the front matter and that's pretty well  it.  So why
are you lying about it?  I'd like to see YOU have the balls to write
something and take responsibility for what others do with it.  heh
heh.

AM> Also, Bill Cheek's behaviour on the FidoNet Scanner group is
AM> digraceful disgusting and disrespectful so I would strongly
discourage
AM> anyone from purchasing any his products.

From you.......that is to be expected, and is your right, of course.

AM> Cheek clearly has a problem with certain  minority groups as well
as
AM> anyone politically left-of-center.

Beg your pardon?  My goodness, doing a little smear campaign, are we?
YOU are the only minority, ***ly ***ed venereal wart that can
be construed as my  problem.  But I don't have problems, so it's
hypothetical, really.

AM> If you do,  decide to purchase one of his products, I sincerely
hope
AM> that you don't  have any problems with it.

He won't.  Unless it's a blank page.  We've run up on three books with
a blank page right in the middle of the action.  We do one of two
things, depending on what the reader wants: send 'im a clean fresh
page, or replace the book. Meanwhile, we've had a confab with the
printer and are assurred of it not happening again.  That's the only
possible problem, really, and it's rare.

Windows 95 Beta Site 141209

So far....so good.  This is America.

Quote:> There is really nothing new unless

I thought you said you read the book?  Nothing new?

Quote:> you plan on using the HB 232 for a computer interface.  

The CE-232 is not the only thing "new" in the book....if you read it
all the way through as you alleged.

Quote:> With the OS 456 out there I don't see the need for the HB-232.

Why not?  With Chevvies out there, you don't see the need for Fords?
You go for monopolies, I take it?  You're against the Sherman
Anti-Trust Act?  The HB-232/CE-232 was on the market before the
OS-456, so why is there a need for the OS-456?  Especially when the
stock software that comes with it is not all that great and serves
only as a come-on for the better and more costly baits after the poor
sucker finds out he's -=almost=- operational.  You think that is cool?
The CE-232 doesn't do everything....nothing does....but it is
complete.  And it is untapped as far as its power is concerned.  Do
you know anything about it?

Quote:> I am not sure why Bill wrote this book

I am not sure why you wrote this message........but what's it to you?

Quote:> it seems to be more of an ego trip than a scanner book,
> in my humble opinion.

How's that, pray tell?  I trust you've done one better?  Where can I
buy it?  

Quote:> The copy I recieved was for review for the Minnesota DX Club,
> I.m glad I did not have to pay to see it.  This should raise some
> dander!  

Was that your intent....to raise some dander?  Why don't you give the
book a thorough and fair review, while you're at it?

Quote:> Any other opinions of Cheek 3 out there?
>Greg Renner
>Secretary of the Minnesota DX Club
>Opinions are mine and no one elses.

And, I trust, then, that you feel you are doing a service to not only
the Minnesota DX Club, but also the scanner world?

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Sure it's easy.  For personal contact, there are only a half-dozen
ways or so.  There is one impossible way (voice phone) and one
ineffective way (snail mail).  The number of voice calls I get make it
impossible to get any work done, and snail mail is expensive and time
consuming for all parties concerned.  

In any event, my business interests capably handle business matters
and I handle personal matters.  I am available and generally within
24-hours, if not sooner.  I just don't do voice.  But people are
available at the voice number so long as only information or orders
are in mind and tech support is not required.  I provide all tech
support, and strictly through the various written media, preferably
public like the FidoNet echoes and hopefully these newsgroups
as soon as I can find an efficient news reader/editor.  In any case, I
am not at all difficult to reach.

Quote:>so I do not know what all that means or how easy it is to hook
>the CD 232 or a modified version to the PRO 43.

It is readily "doable" if one has a decent set of eyes or magnifiers.
Unfortunately, the PRO-43 does not lend itself to 2-way interfacing,
but full Keyboard Control and AutoProgramming by the PC are available
for it through the CE-232.

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