Say some of you aircraft monitors

Say some of you aircraft monitors

Post by Burr » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:11:07

Afternoon,
        What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

        I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

Burr
Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
N35.3582
W117.4157
South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

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Post by N8KD » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:38:33



> Afternoon,
>         What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>         I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

"Heavy" indicates that it is a large aircraft, and alerts others that it may
create wake turbulence. Don't know about the "slick-sided".
Quote:

> Burr
> Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
> Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
> Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
> Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
> N35.3582
> W117.4157
> South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

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Post by N8KD » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:40:16


> Afternoon,
>         What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>         I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

Just a guess on slick-sided, perhaps it refers to the landing gear being up?
Quote:

> Burr
> Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
> Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
> Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
> Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
> N35.3582
> W117.4157
> South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

Say some of you aircraft monitors

Post by Burr » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:41:51

Thanks


>>Afternoon,
>>        What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>>        I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

> "Heavy" indicates that it is a large aircraft, and alerts others that it may
> create wake turbulence. Don't know about the "slick-sided".

>>Burr
>>Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
>>Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
>>Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
>>Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
>>N35.3582
>>W117.4157
>>South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

Say some of you aircraft monitors

Post by Burr » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:43:12

Maybe they say "smooth" also

> Afternoon,
>     What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>     I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

> Burr
> Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
> Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
> Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
> Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
> N35.3582
> W117.4157
> South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

Say some of you aircraft monitors

Post by Burr » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 06:52:51

These guys are at 20,000 ft. and above checking in with the flight
centers. I can hear 6 centers out here.


>>Afternoon,
>>        What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>>        I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

> Just a guess on slick-sided, perhaps it refers to the landing gear being up?

>>Burr
>>Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
>>Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
>>Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
>>Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
>>N35.3582
>>W117.4157
>>South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

Say some of you aircraft monitors

Post by George » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 12:47:31


> Afternoon,
>     What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>     I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

You add the world "Heavy" to your call sign if the aircraft is capable
of having a Max Takeoff Weight of 255,000 lbs or greater.  Even if your
actual takeoff weight is less than 255,000 lbs as long as the aircraft
is capable then you must use Heavy.  Example:  "Miami Center American
498 Heavy with you level Flight Level 330"

This is so that ATC and any aircraft who hears the callsign realizes
this is a heavy aircraft.  The reason this is important is to because
the heavier an aircraft is the more 'wake turbulance' it will generate.

Now the term slick-sided is new to me.  Never heard this in 16 years of
having my pilots license....   Can you recall in what context it was
used?  Part of a Callsign?  The sentence it was used in might give me a
clue...

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com

 
 
 

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Post by Wayne Farme » Mon, 01 Sep 2003 13:23:15


Quote:> Afternoon,
> What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

> I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

Could "slick sided" actually be "slick sighted"?   Could be they're
reporting an oil spill in the water.  Or, if you're misunderstanding the
word "slick", they may be reporting visual sighting of something else.
 
 
 

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Post by GatrGrad » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 02:12:11

Quote:>or "slick sided" ?

Hello Burr,

I've been monitoring both civil and military air comms since the late 1950's.
I don't ever recall hearing the term "slick sided." If you hear it again I'd
appreciate your posting the context in which it was used.You may have
misunderstood the words, although I can't think of anything commonly used that
sounds like the phrase. I would agree with the poster that said it might have
been "slick sighted," perhaps in reference to an oil or fuel spill.  If you're
in the Massachusetts area there was a recent offshore aircraft accident and the
transmision may have been in reference to a search-and-rescue mision. There's
also a slim possibility you've intercepted a transmission from an experimental
or "black ops" military aircraft and you did, indeed, hear the phrase "slick
sided."  If that's the case, it's anyone's guess what it means.
  This is a hobby in which we're constantly learning. There's always something
new. Hope you enjoy listening to the air bands as much as I have over the
years.

Dwight
Jacksonville, FL

 
 
 

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Post by Burr » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:44:31

Morning Dwight,
        Live in the desert in the middle of "all" the flight research center
for everything from aircraft to radar.
        I live next to China Lake, 50 miles from Edward's and 100 miles from
Nellis (area 51) also Fort Edwin 25 miles.

        We see and hear a lot of "funny" things out here at night and during
the days at times.

        No telling what I picked up but I'll keep an eat tuned for those key
words and see if I can remember them.

Burr
Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
N35.3582
W117.4157
South Left Coast, U.S.A.


>>or "slick sided" ?

> Hello Burr,

> I've been monitoring both civil and military air comms since the late 1950's.
> I don't ever recall hearing the term "slick sided." If you hear it again I'd
> appreciate your posting the context in which it was used.You may have
> misunderstood the words, although I can't think of anything commonly used that
> sounds like the phrase. I would agree with the poster that said it might have
> been "slick sighted," perhaps in reference to an oil or fuel spill.  If you're
> in the Massachusetts area there was a recent offshore aircraft accident and the
> transmision may have been in reference to a search-and-rescue mision. There's
> also a slim possibility you've intercepted a transmission from an experimental
> or "black ops" military aircraft and you did, indeed, hear the phrase "slick
> sided."  If that's the case, it's anyone's guess what it means.
>   This is a hobby in which we're constantly learning. There's always something
> new. Hope you enjoy listening to the air bands as much as I have over the
> years.

> Dwight
> Jacksonville, FL

 
 
 

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Post by That Other Georg » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 06:20:16

Well Burr back in the day slick meant one of two things, i.e. non-military
and or no guns. Sometimes I flew a slick OV-10 sometimes it was "BEAR",
i.e. as in loaded for, 2 37mm canons, 2.75" rocket puds and mavericks under
both wings. out there where you live you should be getting 29 Palms and
March Air Force base, George Air Force base, MCAS Miramar and Miramar Naval
Air Station.  You have gun and bomb ranges all around you, so if I had to
guess i'd say your hearing a guy without a guns.


Quote:> Afternoon,
>      What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>      I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

> Burr
> Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
> Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
> Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
> Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
> N35.3582
> W117.4157
> South Left Coast, U.S.A.

--
That Other George


http://webpages.charter.net/moment/

http://webpages.charter.net/moment/winjunk.htm

 
 
 

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Post by Burr » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 06:52:25

Hi That Other George,
        Thanks for the note, I'll bet your right. Sounds like you few in Nam? I
rode in Nam, civilian doing things. I remember the dust off's were
slicks. I rode a lot in Hues with guys riding the rails, or the Hughes
fire fly. Brings back memories!

        Hope your sitting down for the news I'm about to tell you!!!

George AFB is a civilian parking lot for unused airliners, March only
has a air reserve wing!!! and, MCAR Miramar is closed but they are
talking about basing a chopper wing there!!!


> Well Burr back in the day slick meant one of two things, i.e. non-military
> and or no guns. Sometimes I flew a slick OV-10 sometimes it was "BEAR",
> i.e. as in loaded for, 2 37mm canons, 2.75" rocket puds and mavericks under
> both wings. out there where you live you should be getting 29 Palms and
> March Air Force base, George Air Force base, MCAS Miramar and Miramar Naval
> Air Station.  You have gun and bomb ranges all around you, so if I had to
> guess i'd say your hearing a guy without a guns.


>>Afternoon,
>>     What are they talking about when they say "Heavy" or "slick sided" ?

>>     I keep wondering and today I ask!!!

>>Burr
>>Grundig's Sat800&650,YB400&FR200
>>Drake SW8 Scanners BC 895&245XLT
>>Sangean DT110(for Ball Games)
>>Also Have a Clock Radio!!!
>>N35.3582
>>W117.4157
>>South Left Coast, U.S.A.

 
 
 

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Post by Fran » Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:16:45


^ I don't ever recall hearing the term "slick sided."

Could it be a commercial aircraft that has not yet had airline markings
painted on the side?

Frank