Red Wave Radio

Hey folks, stupid quesiton here. I looked at the info on the Pro-92 coming
out, but I did not understand the bit about the alpha tagging properly. The
info on StrongSignals suggests that the radio will alphatag trunked
channels, but can conventional channels be alphatagged also? I'm probably
being silly, but I just was not sure from the description. If anyone knows,
please let me know. I can't wait 2 get my hands on one of those, well.. I'll
wait till the first sale maybe :)
Thanks in advance for any help
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the PRO-92:

        >... can conventional channels be alphatagged also?

Yes.
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I reply:

The manual for the PRO-92 states that alpha labels can be assigned for
standard scanner frequencies as well as for trunking scan ID's.  

However, I will not be purchasing one of these scanners quite yet.
Although it has a lot of extremely cool features, it is going to be
almost useless for trunking since you cannot subdivide a trunking
system into scanning lists.  The Uniden 245 allows you to have up to
10 subdivided scanning lists per trunked system.

For example, let's say my city has a Motorola trunking system which
the police, fire, animal control, ambulance, and public works systems
all share.  On the Uniden 245, I program the frequencies for this
trunking system into a single bank on my scanner.  Then, I can program
the police ID's into trunking scan list 1, the fire into trunking scan
list 2, the animal control into trunking scan list 3 etc etc.  If I
only want to listen to animal control traffic, I simply select
trunking scan list 3 and deselect the other 9 scanlists.

The PRO-92 on the other hand doesn't have the concept of trunking scan
lists.  All of the trunking ID's are grouped together into one mass.
Thus, you can't really "just" listen to the police or fire or animal
control.  You'd have to listen to all the services at once.  Thus,
IMHO, the PRO-92 is useless for trunking.  

Quote:>The PRO-92 on the other hand doesn't have the concept of trunking scan
>lists.  All of the trunking ID's are grouped together into one mass.
>Thus, you can't really "just" listen to the police or fire or animal
>control.  You'd have to listen to all the services at once.  Thus,
>IMHO, the PRO-92 is useless for trunking.  

I'm not sure you are strictly correct.  I think you can lock out any
IDs you don't want to hear, listening to what you want to hear ...
but, you are correct that scan lists per se aren't implemented.  The
scanner is hardly "useless", in my opinion, since you can listen to
multiple systems, trunked and conventional, including differing trunk
types.  You have alpha labels, a great advantage and you can lock out
trunk IDs you don't want to listen to.

in any case, different strokes for different folks..

You're right, this is a poor design.  I still have to have one!  I
just hope it is available before hell freezes over.  I notice no one
bothers to try to find out the release date anymore.  I think that
peak interest has come and gone.

Quote:>I'm not sure you are strictly correct.  I think you can lock out any
>IDs you don't want to hear, listening to what you want to hear ...
>but, you are correct that scan lists per se aren't implemented.  The
>scanner is hardly "useless", in my opinion, since you can listen to
>multiple systems, trunked and conventional, including differing trunk
>types.  You have alpha labels, a great advantage and you can lock out
>trunk IDs you don't want to listen to.

>in any case, different strokes for different folks..

I agree Neil, different strokes.  However, when a trunking system is
shared between many dissimilar services (police, ambulance, fire,
public works), I think that it's absolutely necessary to be able to
organize and instantly lock-out and lock-in the various dissimilar
services.  True, the PRO-92 does allow you to lock out ID's, but if I
want to switch from listening to police to listening to ambulance
services, I hardly want to go and press "lock out" 20 or 30 times.
This was a tremendous design flaw.  I hope Uniden does a scanner which
will allow alpha-numerics AND scan lists.  Until then, I'm sticking
with my 245.  

Is it possible that Uniden patented the concept of "scan lists" and
therefore GRE cannot implement them in the PRO-92?  

  >Although it has a lot of extremely cool features, it is going to be
  >almost useless for trunking since you cannot subdivide a trunking
  >system into scanning lists.  The Uniden 245 allows you to have up to
  >10 subdivided scanning lists per trunked system.
        ...
  >The PRO-92 on the other hand doesn't have the concept of trunking scan
  >lists.  All of the trunking ID's are grouped together into one mass...

Each of the 10 channel banks has its own 100 talk group list.
As a workaround, you could program the same frequencies
for your trunked system into 3 different channel banks,
and program the 3 talk group ID lists differently.
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