AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Wes Shu » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00

In a nutshell, I'm buying a scanner, and my decision has come down
to a choice between the AOR AR-8000 and the Yupiteru MVT-7200.  I'm
looking for suggestions on which to buy.

My immediate uses would probably be both normal scanning (police,
fire, phones, etc.) and shortwave listening.  This would be my one
and only scanner/receiver.  Because of this, the widest covereage
possible and the widest variety of reception modes is essential.
Also, good handling of the incredibly crowded SW bands would be
nice.

An external baseband signal output would be nice, so that I could
hook up decoders/detectors for other modes (DX FM stereo/TV?  SSTV?
RTTY?  ACARS?  I know some of these can be decoded through the audio
out, but I doubt the first two can).  It seems the Icom 7100 has
something like this, but it also costs $$$, and doesn't tune down into
the SW bands.

A computer interface would be nice (is there one on the MVT-7200?),
but it's hardly crucial as I don't have a computer at this time
(just sold my Power Mac 7100/80, as I never used it).

I actually don't need the portability of a handheld, but for some
reason there are no base/mobiles with the same features at the
same price range.  I'd love an AR-3000A or AR-5000, but that's
pushing my budget.

I'm not sure I need the Scout compatibility of the AR-8000 either,
but if I come into some money in the future (yeah right) I may
have a use for it.  Goes along with the "one and only scanner"
bit--I want to have all the features I'll probably ever reasonably
want.

I'm also interested in the other generic mundane details--selectivity,
intermod handling, shielding, etc.  I have all the specs per the
company printed out, but I'd like a real evaluation by someone who
has used and compared these two models.

Please, if you have any suggestions/opinions at all, post them here
or mail them to me.

Thanks.

--
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AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Brett Miller - N7OL » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00



>  In a nutshell, I'm buying a scanner, and my decision has come down
>  to a choice between the AOR AR-8000 and the Yupiteru MVT-7200.  I'm
>  looking for suggestions on which to buy.

Based on what I have read, unless you really value the computer interface and the
alphanumneric display of the AR8000 (which the 7200 has neither), you should get
the 7200 because of its superior RF performance.  As you may know the 7200 is in
short supply and we can probably expect an updated model from Yupi sometime
next year.


Intel Corp.                             CIS: 73370,3030
American Fork, UT

 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Kelvin Mim » Thu, 30 Nov 1995 04:00:00

Quote:>I'm also interested in the other generic mundane details--selectivity,
>intermod handling, shielding, etc.  I have all the specs per the
>company printed out, but I'd like a real evaluation by someone who
>has used and compared these two models.

>Please, if you have any suggestions/opinions at all, post them here
>or mail them to me.

>Thanks.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>My MVT-7100 has earned every bit of my respect.This is the only

handheld Recv that I have ever seen that can be used for duplexing on 2
meters while in a mobil unit. I have also run comparsion test with the
AR-8K and found that the AR skipped over signals that the Yupi locked
on, even after swapping ant's and checking the sqlch the AR-8K would
still FAIL to detect the same signals. In my opinion the Yupi MVT is a
RECEIVER that can be used as a SCANNER quite well and the AR-8K is a
scanner that can "act" like a receiver.( Note: two trace cuts and two
jumpers and the 7100 is just as good as the 7200)

KE6CRK  

 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Wes Shu » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00


> In a nutshell, I'm buying a scanner, and my decision has come down
> to a choice between the AOR AR-8000 and the Yupiteru MVT-7200.  I'm
> looking for suggestions on which to buy.

Thanks to everyone who posted and/or emailed me info.  I've decided
that even though it's reception is not quite as good, the AOR8000
is a better choice because of its features and support.  Now the
question comes if I will ever have the money to buy one...  I'm
having to sell stuff now as it is to pay for my car and my new
apartment.  Ah well, that's life.

Now this is really delving into the hypothetical, because I don't
even have a computer, but what is the best computer interface for
the AR8000?  I'm only aware of two, the (AR8000INF I think) one
from EDCO and the one (CX12 something or other) from OE.  Which
features do each have?  I've been net surfing, and haven't seen
any product information on these devices, but I have heard hints
that it may not be possible to modify the band plan with the INF.
The INF does seem much smaller, though--more suited to portable
scanning hooked to a palmtop computer.

--
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AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Victor Heal » Sun, 03 Dec 1995 04:00:00

But you did not adjust any of the advanced features of the AR8k that
are available only on an 8k. This would have rendered similar
performance. I find few people are even aware of the impact these
have...
PLL LOCK DETECT
SQELCH DETECT
LEVEL MODULATION DETECT
LEVEL VS SQELCH WAIT
AUDIO WAIT
all values can be set in millliseconds

You can make the AR8k to be any kind of radio you want.
No other radio I am aware of in a handheld scanner allows you to
second guess the design engineer and change it in software to make it
do what you want.

Read the manual and try again before you post about the AR8k. ;>)


Quote:

>>I'm also interested in the other generic mundane details--selectivity,
>>intermod handling, shielding, etc.  I have all the specs per the
>>company printed out, but I'd like a real evaluation by someone who
>>has used and compared these two models.

>>Please, if you have any suggestions/opinions at all, post them here
>>or mail them to me.

>>Thanks.

>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>My MVT-7100 has earned every bit of my respect.This is the only
>handheld Recv that I have ever seen that can be used for duplexing on 2
>meters while in a mobil unit. I have also run comparsion test with the
>AR-8K and found that the AR skipped over signals that the Yupi locked
>on, even after swapping ant's and checking the sqlch the AR-8K would
>still FAIL to detect the same signals. In my opinion the Yupi MVT is a
>RECEIVER that can be used as a SCANNER quite well and the AR-8K is a
>scanner that can "act" like a receiver.( Note: two trace cuts and two
>jumpers and the 7100 is just as good as the 7200)

>KE6CRK  

Victor Healey
Ki4je
http://www.crl.com/~vhealey/ar8000.homepage.html
 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by SHALA » Tue, 05 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Is there any difference between the Opto. CX12 and CX12AR or are they the
same?
 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Mark 79 » Tue, 05 Dec 1995 04:00:00

Opto Electronics   CX12-AR    is the way to go...........

I've been modifying the 8000 for 7 months now, and not one
glitch............

 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Richard Ridgew » Wed, 06 Dec 1995 04:00:00


>But you did not adjust any of the advanced features of the AR8k that
>are available only on an 8k. This would have rendered similar
>performance. I find few people are even aware of the impact these
>have...
>PLL LOCK DETECT
>SQELCH DETECT
>LEVEL MODULATION DETECT
>LEVEL VS SQELCH WAIT
>AUDIO WAIT
>all values can be set in millliseconds
>You can make the AR8k to be any kind of radio you want.
>No other radio I am aware of in a handheld scanner allows you to
>second guess the design engineer and change it in software to make it
>do what you want.

<snip>

Quote:>Victor Healey
>Ki4je
>http://www.crl.com/~vhealey/ar8000.homepage.html

Victor,

You seem to know quite a bit about the ar8k.  I currently own a
IC-R100 and am very pleased with the front-end specs.  Sensitivity is
excellent.  Selectivity and Image rejection are real good.  I have no
complaints about the r100.  I would like to have the capability of
computer control and also the interface to the Scout Frequency
Recorder.  Do you have any experience with the latter?

I would also like to enlist any other comment/problems/ect. about the
ar8k.  Please qualified answers only.  Just saying that "I have the
radio and it works great!"  Doesn't tell me why???  Say why it is such
a good radio or a piece of junk.

Thanks in Advance.

//Richard\\

 
 
 

AR-8000 vs. MVT-7200?

Post by Wes Shu » Thu, 07 Dec 1995 04:00:00


> Is there any difference between the Opto. CX12 and CX12AR or are they the
> same?

From my understanding the AR model is the CX12 plus an adapter
that gives you a place to plug the miniplugs into.  By itself,
the AR8000/2700 just has a flat flexible cable jack which
obviously won't work with the CX12 cables.  So if you're going
to use the CX12 with an AOR radio you need the CX12AR model.

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