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by **PopTicia** » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and 73,
Mike
KD4RNF

by **W6RCecil** » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
> High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
> to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
> in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
> mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You need to get a bracket welded to your frame.
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca

by **PopTicia** » Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Where can i get that done? The dealer?
Thanks,
Mike

> > Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
> > High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
> > to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
> > in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
> > mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

> You need to get a bracket welded to your frame.
> --
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca

by **W6RCecil** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> Where can i get that done? The dealer?

Not sure about a dealer. A muffler shop comes to mind. They
weld stuff all the time. I simply use my pickup trailer hitch.
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca

by **Butch Mage** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Have you considered the examples that HS gives in their literature and also
on their website? I think the best mount, for me, would be the trailer
hitch combo. I have a new Buick and plastic bumpers too. I have not,
however, received permission from my Love Godess of 39 years to do that
yet.

Butch KF5DE

> Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
> High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
> to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
> in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
> mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks and 73,
> Mike
> KD4RNF

by **Brian Kel** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

>Where can i get that done? The dealer?
>Thanks,
>Mike

Look in your local Yellow Pages under "welding". Have one of those
shops weld a 1/4" x 1" or 1/4" x 1.50" or similar steel strap to the
u-bracket under the car which is used to tie the car down during sea
transport. Assuming the 626 was made in Japan. Take the base mount and
mast with you and work out the design of the complete bracket with
them. Most body shops can do the job too, but they don't usually have
1/4" thick steel laying around. Make sure they get the thing nice and
vertical and are fully aware that the gas tank is in the immediate
"neighborhood".

Brian Kelly w3rv

by **Dennis C. O'Conno** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

No frame on spam cans.... There should be something near the rear wheels
that can be drilled and bolted for a piece of channel iron, though...
Or, go to a shop that installs trailer hitches and they can solve your
problem...

Denny

> > Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
> > High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
> > to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
> > in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
> > mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

> You need to get a bracket welded to your frame.
> --
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca

by **NS1Z** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I have the original, the HS1000. I brought a pipe out from the
sub-frame and bolted the mount to it. Very rugged and a direct
connection to ground. It looked like an "L" rotated 90 degrees CCWwith
the long side being bolted to the subframe. Very nice when painted to
match the body of the vehicle.

>Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
>High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
>to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
>in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
>mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks and 73,
>Mike
>KD4RNF

by **Richard Ferguso** » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

The arrangement described below is similar to that shown in the last
issue of QST magazine. If you look under the car you will probably find
a towhook or ring bolted to some substantial part of the car. You can
bolt an arrangement as described below to those holes and have a solid
arrangement. I would not weld on the car except as an absolute last resort.

By the way, I also use a trailer hitch mount, homemade, the hustler
antenna ball sits right beside the trailer hitch ball. Made from 1/4
inch steel, it has outlasted a couple of cars and survived being
rearended, no problem.

Richard Ferguson

> I have the original, the HS1000. I brought a pipe out from the
> sub-frame and bolted the mount to it. Very rugged and a direct
> connection to ground. It looked like an "L" rotated 90 degrees CCWwith
> the long side being bolted to the subframe. Very nice when painted to
> match the body of the vehicle.

> >Hi, I've got a 96 Mazda 626 and I'm trying to figure out how to mount a
> >High Sierra HS-1500 on it. Its got plastic bumpers, no vertical suface
> >to mount too, and no trailer hitch. I've seen mounts to several sedans
> >in the High Sierra literature, but there aren't any photos of how the
> >mount is secured to the car. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks and 73,
> >Mike
> >KD4RNF

by **Michael Neverdosk** » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

You really should BOLT the mount to the car. The mount can be made from
pieces that are welded together but welding to the car is probably a
bad idea.

These cars are integrated body/frame fo there is no "frame" to weld to.
Also they are often high strength/heat treated steel and require
special procedures to weld safely.

Last, in the case that you might want to sell the car someday, you want
to be able to remove the antenna mount.

BTW Any good trailer shop can make a nice mount and bolt it up for you.
This is a lot easier than mounting a trailer hitch.

michael N6CHV (in central FL)

> >Where can i get that done? The dealer?
> >Thanks,
> >Mike

> Look in your local Yellow Pages under "welding". Have one of those
> shops weld a 1/4" x 1" or 1/4" x 1.50" or similar steel strap to the
> u-bracket under the car which is used to tie the car down during sea
> transport.

by **Brian Kel** » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:28:00 +0000, Michael Neverdosky

>You really should BOLT the mount to the car. The mount can be made from
>pieces that are welded together but welding to the car is probably a
>bad idea.

>These cars are integrated body/frame fo there is no "frame" to weld to.
>Also they are often high strength/heat treated steel and require
>special procedures to weld safely.

Punching holes in underbody structures generates stress concentrations
and invites rust. If you can find any place to drill holes.

You weld a 1/4" strap to the low carbon non-heat-treatable steel
tiedown bracket found under imported cars, not to the unibody
structure. Those brackets are structural strongpoints and not used for
anything beyond securing the car to the deck during sea transport, my
Hondas had four of 'em two each fore & aft. From there you cobble
together an antenna mount made from the same steel stock or whatever
which reaches under the car and bolts to the hidden strap. Takes two
minutes under the car in install/uninstall the antenna mount. When
it's not on the car you can't see the mod to the tiedown bracket
unless you get under the car.

I scrounged the material from a local machine shop and did the metal
work myself, the whole installation cost me a five-dollar tip to the
welder.

Brian Kelly w3rv

by **Michael Neverdosk** » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

> Punching holes in underbody structures generates stress concentrations
> and invites rust. If you can find any place to drill holes.

True.
I would look for something that is already bolted on and use the
existing
holes and nutplates.

Quote:> You weld a 1/4" strap to the low carbon non-heat-treatable steel
> tiedown bracket found under imported cars,

OK
That would work fine.

Quote:> I scrounged the material from a local machine shop and did the metal
> work myself, the whole installation cost me a five-dollar tip to the
> welder.

My little Lincoln SP-125+ would handle it just ducky.

I just want people to be aware of what they are doing and where.
You have clearly done a good job of it.
thanks

michael N6CHV

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