NYC FM XMTR sites (Was NYC FM calls 70s-today (was: Re...))

NYC FM XMTR sites (Was NYC FM calls 70s-today (was: Re...))

Post by JOHN SCHMID » Fri, 13 May 1994 11:08:18

With the help of Bill Wells, Chief Engineer of WBAI, I have taken the liberty
of adding transmitter location and backup site info to Paul's list for all the
stations which we are familiar with.

Disclaimers:This is for 70s to today only 92-108 only not necessarily Empire
State / WTC sites

(also it includes several stations licensed to NJ, but not Long Island or
Westchester)

89.9 always WKCR    
WTC Master Antenna, No B/U (I added this one as it is the only NCE band station
on one of the master antennas.)

92.3 WHOM-fm....WKTU.....WXRK
Empire Master Antenna, No B/U

93.1 always WPAT-fm(Paterson, one t)
WTC Master Antenna, B/U in N.J.

93.9 always WNYC-fm
WTC Master Antenna, No B/U

94.7 alwys WFME
(Transmitter in NJ)

95.5 WABC-FM...WPLJ...WWPR (to emphasize "Power" 95)...WPLJ
Empire "Network" Master antenna, B/U???

96.3 always WQXR (-fm not needed when the AM became WQEW)
Empire Master Antenna, No B/U

97.1 WNBC-fm...WNWS...WYNY...WQHT (moved here from 103.5 9/22/88)
Empire "Network" Master Antenna, B/U???

97.9 WEVD-fm...WSKQ-fm
Empire Master Antenna, No B/U

98.7 WOR-fm...WXLO...WRKS
Empire Master Antenna, seperate B/U antenna on Empire

99.5 always WBAI
Empire Master Antenna, No B/U

100.3 WVNJ-fm...WHTZ
Empire Master Antenna, B/U, in NJ?

101.1 WCBS-fm always
Empire "Network" Master Antenna, B/U, site??

101.9 WPIX...WQCD
Empire Master Antenna, B/U on WTC Master Antenna

102.7 always WNEW (-fm not needed when AM became WBBR)
Empire Master Antenna, B/U offsite, location??

103.5 WTFM...WAPP...WQHT...WYNY (moved here from 97.1 9/22/88 WTC Master
Antenna, used to have B/U in Fresh Meadows, Queens at studio site, current
backup site??

104.3 WNCN...WQIV...WNCN...WAXQ
Empire, still on "old" master antenna (only user), will move to "new" one some-
time this year, no B/U

105.1 WRFM...WNSR...WMXV (to better emphasize MixVariety)
Empire Master Antenna, B/U??

105.9 WHBI...WNWK
Transmitter still at 515 Madison Avenue??

106.7 WRVR...WKHK...WLTW
Empire Master Antenna, B/U at Viacom Building (Times Square)

107.5 WLIB-fm...WBLS
Empire Master Antenna, B/U at WLIB Xmtr in NJ.

There is one master antenna on WTC, with five users.  There are no backup
antennas installed at WTC.  There is emergency power at WTC for all users
(but it failed during the bombing, as the cooling water line was cut).

There are three master antennas at Empire.  The "New" master antenna has 11
current customers.  The "old" master antenna has one customer who will soon
move to the new antenna. The old antenna will then remain as a backup to the
new antenna (but the old diplexers will be removed, which to me seems a little
backwards, as there have been several diplexer failures over the years, but
never, as far as I know, an antenna failure.

The "Network" master antenna was installed by the three network o-and-o stations
(WPLJ, WNBC-FM, WCBS-FM), and is, to the best of my knowledge, still used by
their decendants.

There are several individually owned backup antennas on Empire.  I know WRKS
has one, but am not sure who else currently does.  

There is no central emergency power at Empire, several stations have their own
generators.  I know WRKS does, and am almost positive WCBS does.  Others ??

A number of stations have off-site backups.  I suspect often at co-owned
or formerly co-owned AM sites.  

Paul Mount
Monmouth NJ
NRC/WTFDA

With added information by John Schmidt with much help from Bill Wells.  Correct-
ions/updates welcome.

(Bill, maby this would be worthwhile to put in the archives?)

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NYC FM XMTR sites (Was NYC FM calls 70s-today (was: Re...))

Post by Steve Colet » Thu, 19 May 1994 11:13:21



> 92.3 WHOM-fm....WKTU.....WXRK
> Empire Master Antenna, No B/U

(very) low power B/U in NJ at WZRC site.  If purchase option is taken by
LMA of AM station this may change.

Quote:> 93.9 always WNYC-fm
> WTC Master Antenna, No B/U

B/U was once on Municipal Building, but was removed during restoration of
the landmark building.

Quote:> 100.3 WVNJ-fm...WHTZ
> Empire Master Antenna, B/U, in NJ?

Nope, WHTZ is no longer associated with an AM station.

Quote:> 101.1 WCBS-fm always
> Empire "Network" Master Antenna, B/U, site??

Seperate B/U antenna on Empire, also full UPS system and WCBS-TV B/U, (main
TV on WTC).  Only TV and FM stations to remain on the air during blackout
and TV was the only VHF to stay on during the WTC bombing.

Quote:> 103.5 WTFM...WAPP...WQHT...WYNY (moved here from 97.1 9/22/88 WTC Master
> Antenna, used to have B/U in Fresh Meadows, Queens at studio site, current
> backup site??

Fresh Meadows torn down years ago, WQHT studios moved to Astoria, Queens
long before that.

Quote:> 105.9 WHBI...WNWK
> Transmitter still at 515 Madison Avenue??

Good question, new studio is downtown and since frequency is assigned to
Newark, NJ, it may be moving to WTC.  BTW, 515 Madison tower was originally
built by Dumont TV network for Channel 5, (WABD) and WABF (FM).  Although
WABF went off the air in 1954, it's direct decendent is WNEW-FM since
WNEW's owner, (Metropolitan Broadcasting), was the senior partner in the TV
and FM station, (Metropolitan Television).  After move of WABD to Empire
and later demise of WABF, tower was used by WKCR.

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Post by Michael Sto » Thu, 19 May 1994 11:53:06

: With the help of Bill Wells, Chief Engineer of WBAI, I have taken the liberty
: of adding transmitter location and backup site info to Paul's list for all the
: stations which we are familiar with.

[listing]

Probably the most interesting (from a curiosity standpoint) transmitter
in NYC is my alma mater, WNYU-FM (89.1).  The frequency was origanlly
assigned by treaty to the United Nations, which theoretically can demand
it back anytime.  Currently it is shared by WNYU (4p-1a local time,
Mon-Fri) and WRSU (all other times) (some shit-ass college in Jersey).
The transmitter is located at the old NYU campus in University Heights,
the Bronx and the antenna is aimed generally to the NE (Manhattan below
about the 50s, including the NYU campus, can't usually receive WNYU well).

I'm not aware of any other such time sharing arrangement in the US.

Someday if I get rich or elected to Congress I will find a way to make
WNYU 24 hrs and omnidirectional.....

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Post by Steve Colet » Sat, 21 May 1994 03:57:33


> Probably the most interesting (from a curiosity standpoint) transmitter
> in NYC is my alma mater, WNYU-FM (89.1).  The frequency was origanlly
> assigned by treaty to the United Nations, which theoretically can demand
> it back anytime.

The UN gave up the frequency FOR GOOD about 10 years ago.

  Currently it is shared by WNYU (4p-1a local time,

Quote:> Mon-Fri) and WRSU (all other times) (some shit-ass college in Jersey).

It shares with WFDU from Faerleigh***enson(SP?), who was the first to
submit a chalenge to the UN's reservation of the channel.  They get the
lion share of the time not only because of that, but that they went on
about a year or more before WNYU and Ryder College in Trenton, (WWWR ?),
that was the number 2 chalenger for the frequency.

Quote:> The transmitter is located at the old NYU campus in University Heights,
> the Bronx and the antenna is aimed generally to the NE (Manhattan below
> about the 50s, including the NYU campus, can't usually receive WNYU well).

You can thank WFUV's CE for that, he built the WNYU transmitter plant,
cloning the WFUV plant and northern pattern rather than beaming it east.

Quote:

> I'm not aware of any other such time sharing arrangement in the US.

There's one in Long Island.  Like the WFDU, WWWR, WNYU battle for the UN
cleared channel, there was one for 90.3 in Nassau county when WSHS in
Fl***Park burnt down.  Both Adelphi U., (WBAU), and Nassau Co. Teachers
Coll., (WHPC), who are both in Garden City, share the frequency.  Except
WHPC has the Mon-Fri until 4PM, and WBAU has all the other times.

At one time they shared the same transmitter until WHPC knocked WBAU off.
Now WBAU has the better signal from it's own plant.  But you have to watch
out. Between the time they got bounced and got their existing tower up WBAU
was miniscule in power.  A 10 watter from Harlem got squeezed into a hole
just before the FCC stopped issuing the license class.  That station is
still there causing all sort of problems for WBAU in upper Manhattan and
Western Queens, and probably parts of the Bronx.

Quote:> Someday if I get rich or elected to Congress I will find a way to make
> WNYU 24 hrs and omnidirectional.....

Yeah, buy up WFMU, move WNYU to 91.1 and both WFUV and WNYU can go omni.
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Post by Bryan D. Boy » Sun, 22 May 1994 14:23:41

|>
|>You can thank WFUV's CE for that, he built the WNYU transmitter plant,
|>cloning the WFUV plant and northern pattern rather than beaming it east.

Actually you can thank Vir James for the pattern and the need to protect
some rinkydink station down in jersey.  (I used to fill in for Bob on call
for the WNYU xmtr when he went on vacation...last time I checked, I think
I still had a posting statement up there...Don't blame the FUV CE, the
site was there long before he took it over...

|>Yeah, buy up WFMU, move WNYU to 91.1 and both WFUV and WNYU can go omni.

FUV is hemmed in by some 10-watter down in Brooklyn and I forget who
over here in NJ.  It was a pain to do the pattern right when we replaced
the Jampro back in '76 with the RCA stack.  It would have been nice,
however, to have worked on an NCFM that was 50K omni...oh well...

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Post by Michael Sto » Fri, 27 May 1994 09:24:00

: Probably the most interesting (from a curiosity standpoint) transmitter
: in NYC is my alma mater, WNYU-FM (89.1).  The frequency was origanlly
: assigned by treaty to the United Nations, which theoretically can demand
: it back anytime.  Currently it is shared by WNYU (4p-1a local time,
: Mon-Fri) and WRSU (all other times) (some shit-ass college in Jersey).

I stand corrected by those who pointed out the other 89.1 station is WFDU
(Fairleigh***inson University).  Both stations are from Jersey, you
have to go around them.

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