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Post by Day Brow » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:01:23

Some of us in the Ozark boondocks are looking into how to
setup a long distance wireless high speed network that we
can access the net with.

I already have a 2w fm transmitter card I bought for 25$
and I see where there are 50watt transmitters for 150$.
but how do we go from the digital pc output to analog for
the transmitter?

NIC?
VGA NTSC I/O?
stereo sound card?

 
 
 

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Post by Bill Osborn » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:12:12



Quote:> Some of us in the Ozark boondocks are looking into how to
> setup a long distance wireless high speed network that we
> can access the net with.

> I already have a 2w fm transmitter card I bought for 25$
> and I see where there are 50watt transmitters for 150$.
> but how do we go from the digital pc output to analog for
> the transmitter?

============================================
If you are truly using digital audio, then using the digital output would
seem to need to be inputted into a mixer capable of accepting a digital
signal. Once accomplished... then you feed the analog line-out from the
mixer into usually a compression/limiter before sending a "controlled
signal" to any Xmitter's e***r Encoders.

On the other hand if you are simply talking about have music or webcast
links from other stations feed out of your computer... then it's just as
easy to tap off the outputs of a Stereo Sound card and take it from there.
This I mean... do you want to add compression and limiters? or just stream
music off the PC onto "the air"?

I use a program called OtsJuke which allows me to insert jingles, promos,
psa's, weather, and very flexible playlists. Plus it also allows me a "live
mic" feature or line-in if I wish to add any outside hardware sound source
to the stream. OtsJuke has it's own built in compressor and limiter if one
wishes it. Totally designed to prevent over modulation if one wants to use
the program for legal or otherwise broadcasting.

I only use mine for Webcasting and mobile Dj party type gigs. My location is
too congested to even think of a  Xmitter in my area.

There are many programs out there for Dj work... Only one needs his/her
imagination to decide how far to integrate it into webcasting, live
performance, or  on-air Xmitting. Winamp alone... and play out via a sound
card web links or any audio format that Winamp supports... Best part... the
program is FREE.

Hope this has helped a bit..

Ps... A great resource for how do they do it, can be simply discussed with
"live" webcasters who stream of the various sites. I have even gotten top
dance playlists from asking those q/a's from live Dj's on the web. Helped me
keep current of the new tunes....

Bill O.

 
 
 

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Post by gaff » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:46:56


Quote:

>Winamp alone... and play out via a sound
> card web links or any audio format that Winamp supports... Best part...
the
> program is FREE.

Yes Winamp is great for automated broadcasting - recorded intors, music
mp3's etc..... just drag and drop files into the playlist windows!!! simple
and works fine.

As for digital .......maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can tapin and playback
mp3 music over the LAN. (PC's would have to have the need LAN reciever cards
and and would be in effect be your "radio reciever"

--
An unjust king asked a devotee what kind of worship is best? He replied:
'For thee the best is to sleep one half of the day so as not to injure the
people for a while.'

I saw a tyrant sleeping half the day.
I said: 'This confusion, if sleep removes it, so much the better;
But he whose sleep is better than his wakefulness
Is better dead than leading such a bad life.'

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Wals » Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:53:16


> maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...

Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.


 
 
 

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Post by AB8M » Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:51:16





> :
> : > maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> : > are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> : > tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...
> :
> : Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
> : so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.

> The \ /

Anonymous coward and all-around ***wit

revealed what a hypocrite he is and ironically admits he has no credibility
in message

"Therefore, I find your story difficult to believe.  Your own anonymous
status makes the story even less credible."

--


"Stagger Lee is anti-free speech because he originally came in here
demanding that Steve Geilda, a regular in this group, cancel Roger
Wiseman's account on his server because he didn't like what Roger was
saying. That is anti-free speech. Since free speech is one of the
foundations of the American constitution and America it's self, if you are
ant-free speech, you are by defintion anti-American."

 
 
 

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Post by Mark S. Holde » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:46:54

<Snipped it all>

Perhaps if you occasionally posted something other than potty mouthed
insults folks would stop exorcising their right to complain about you.

 
 
 

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Post by Mark Wals » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 02:41:47




> : > maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> : > are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> : > tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...
> : Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
> : so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.
> The 802.11 wireless networks are "in" now and can easily
> be made to traverse distances of more than a few hundred feet.

Yes, 802.11 would be more appropriate especially since
hardware to run it on one of the "junk" ISM bands is cheap.

Quote:> In fact, several communities have established 802.11b
> wireless networks for public use.

Yes, they are indeed useful, but they are very bandwidth-limited.
I wrote software for a 900 MHz band 802.11 application,
and here in Silicon Valley, it was retry city.
 
 
 

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Post by Lizard Blizzar » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:42:21


> Some of us in the Ozark boondocks are looking into how to
> setup a long distance wireless high speed network that we
> can access the net with.
> I already have a 2w fm transmitter card I bought for 25$
> and I see where there are 50watt transmitters for 150$.
> but how do we go from the digital pc output to analog for
> the transmitter?
> NIC?
> VGA NTSC I/O?
> stereo sound card?

Do a web search for the word Supervozelj and that _is_ the correct
spelling.  This is the way they send high speed data from point to point
in eastern Europe.
 
 
 

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Post by Lizard Blizzar » Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:49:25




> : > maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> : > are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> : > tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...
> : Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
> : so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.
> The 802.11 wireless networks are "in" now and can easily be made to
> traverse distances of more than a few hundred feet.  In fact, several
> communities have established 802.11b wireless networks for public use.
> Do a web search on "802.11" or look in the archives of www.slashdot.org
> and you'll find lots of material on public and neighborhood networks.
> Best of all, the cards are relatively inexpensive and are available from
> places like Radio Shack.

I've installed several Cisco 802.11 boxes in several buildings, but the
antennas have all been omnidirectional so that everyone on that floor
can use it.  One of our bldgs has a dish directed to a high rise
building a mile or so away and it's working fine with the Cisco boxes on
each end.  These devices may not be that expensive but the biggest
expense is getting the RF out into the air with the necessary
directionality and strength, and that means bigger high gain antennas
and low loss cable so the antenna can be put up high.  This is where the
real expense is.
 
 
 

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Post by Stagger Le » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 07:31:52





> > : > maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> > : > are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> > : > tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...

> > : Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
> > : so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.

> > The 802.11 wireless networks are "in" now and can easily be made to
> > traverse distances of more than a few hundred feet.  In fact, several
> > communities have established 802.11b wireless networks for public use.
> > Do a web search on "802.11" or look in the archives of www.slashdot.org
> > and you'll find lots of material on public and neighborhood networks.
> > Best of all, the cards are relatively inexpensive and are available from
> > places like Radio Shack.

> I've installed several Cisco 802.11 boxes in several buildings, but the
> antennas have all been omnidirectional so that everyone on that floor
> can use it.  One of our bldgs has a dish directed to a high rise
> building a mile or so away and it's working fine with the Cisco boxes on
> each end.  These devices may not be that expensive but the biggest
> expense is getting the RF out into the air with the necessary
> directionality and strength, and that means bigger high gain antennas
> and low loss cable so the antenna can be put up high.  This is where the
> real expense is.

Just today (Fri Mar 29, 2002) http://www.slashdot.org had a very
interesting discussion of 802.11 wireless and it's use in the amateur
radio service.  Several posters pointed out that high gain antennas are
not that difficult to build yourself.

The thrust of the article was 802.11 wireless conversion to the amateur
radio service (http://www.qsl.net/kb9mwr/projects/wireless/plan.html),
and the conclusions were that it is not that daunting, and that the
bandwidth is rather good, contrary to another poster's claims.

People even casually interested in getting in on the action, really owe
it to themselves to look at the discussion at
http://slashdot.org/articles/02/03/29/0157221.shtml?tid=126 for a
rundown on the possibilities.  Many universities have been putting up
campus wide wireless networks with 802.11 equipment.  It makes it much
easier for the transient student population to get on the university
net.

 
 
 

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Post by AB8M » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 07:45:09







> > > : > maybe a "bluetooth wireless LAN" (or whatever formats
> > > : > are now out)  so computers within a few hundred feet can
> > > : > tapin and playback mp3 music over the LAN...

> > > : Bluetooth uses a protocol that specifically limits its range
> > > : so that neighbors don't interfere with one another.

> > > The 802.11 wireless networks are "in" now and can easily be made to
> > > traverse distances of more than a few hundred feet.  In fact, several
> > > communities have established 802.11b wireless networks for public use.
> > > Do a web search on "802.11" or look in the archives of
www.slashdot.org
> > > and you'll find lots of material on public and neighborhood networks.
> > > Best of all, the cards are relatively inexpensive and are available
from
> > > places like Radio Shack.

> > I've installed several Cisco 802.11 boxes in several buildings, but the
> > antennas have all been omnidirectional so that everyone on that floor
> > can use it.  One of our bldgs has a dish directed to a high rise
> > building a mile or so away and it's working fine with the Cisco boxes on
> > each end.  These devices may not be that expensive but the biggest
> > expense is getting the RF out into the air with the necessary
> > directionality and strength, and that means bigger high gain antennas
> > and low loss cable so the antenna can be put up high.  This is where the
> > real expense is.

> Just today (Fri Mar 29, 2002) http://www.redwaveradio.com/ had a very

\ /

Anonymous coward and all-around ***wit

revealed what a hypocrite he is and ironically admits he has no credibility
in message

"Therefore, I find your story difficult to believe.  Your own anonymous
status makes the story even less credible."

--


"Stagger Lee is anti-free speech because he originally came in here
demanding that Steve Geilda, a regular in this group, cancel Roger
Wiseman's account on his server because he didn't like what Roger was
saying. That is anti-free speech. Since free speech is one of the
foundations of the American constitution and America it's self, if you are
ant-free speech, you are by defintion anti-American."

 
 
 

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Post by Rollo » Sun, 31 Mar 2002 10:42:26


Quote:>"Stagger Lee is anti-free speech because he originally came in here
>demanding that Steve Geilda, a regular in this group, cancel Roger
>Wiseman's account on his server because he didn't like what Roger was
>saying. That is anti-free speech. Since free speech is one of the
>foundations of the American constitution and America it's self, if you are
>ant-free speech, you are by defintion anti-American."

Yawn.
 
 
 

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Post by bousefsaf.thierr » Fri, 05 Apr 2002 04:27:54

coucou ton serveur est pirate


> IS this guy on dope or somthing well he sounds as though he is ***ing out
> of it.
> This is a news group for ***ing pirat radio transmiters not ***ing CB
> sidebanders you ***ing silly shit.
> Go do some dxing or somthing.



> > > Yeah, I try to keep the rightwingnuts and gunnuts honest but there's
no
> > way.
> > > And now the holyrollers and biblethumpers are driving me around the
> > bend --
> > > these clowns would make Jesus puke.

> > repent now! cast out your evil receiver!

> > please remember everyone: when referring to satan the new politically
> > correct way is to say he is 'good challenged'... he's already going
> through
> > a lot of therapy to cope with the big azz beating he is going to take
when
> > the world ends. :p

> > phil :)

 
 
 

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Post by Arthur Jernber » Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:20:56

Quality use of the English Languiage by a "Professional" Eh?/  There are
verbs and nouns in use without showing your persoinal ignorance.


> coucou ton serveur est pirate


> > IS this guy on dope or somthing well he sounds as though he is ***ing
out
> > of it.
> > This is a news group for ***ing pirat radio transmiters not ***ing CB
> > sidebanders you ***ing silly shit.
> > Go do some dxing or somthing.



> > > > Yeah, I try to keep the rightwingnuts and gunnuts honest but there's
> no
> > > way.
> > > > And now the holyrollers and biblethumpers are driving me around the
> > > bend --
> > > > these clowns would make Jesus puke.

> > > repent now! cast out your evil receiver!

> > > please remember everyone: when referring to satan the new politically
> > > correct way is to say he is 'good challenged'... he's already going
> > through
> > > a lot of therapy to cope with the big azz beating he is going to take
> when
> > > the world ends. :p

> > > phil :)