Mich stations on 1210 (WJZZ, WKNX)

Mich stations on 1210 (WJZZ, WKNX)

Post by John Hueble » Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Regarding which stations are operating on 1210, discussed on both
rec.radio.shortwave and rec.radio.broadcasting


Quote:>   WCHB is on 1200, formerly on 1440 - never (at least intentionally) on
>1210.  They have a CP for 50/15 kW, but I doubt they are anything near
>that at the present time.  The CP may even be dependent on WOWO 1190
>downgrading their pattern to protect WLIB 1190 NYC (whose owners bought
>WOWO so that WLIB could possibly go fulltime).
>   WJZZ (formerly WKNX) on 1210 has been off the air (from Frankenmuth)
>for some time.  the WJZZ now listed on 1210 is a construction permit for
>Kingsley (if its on the air, that is news to me) Kingsley is nowhere
>near Frankenmuth nor Detroit - its just south of Traverse City, nearly
>200 miles NW of Detroit.  Inasmuch as the WJZZ permit is daytime only,
>and only 2.5 kW critical hours, I doubt it could ever be heard in
>Detroit (daytime groundwave, btw, would be very difficult, as soil
>conductivity in the area around Kingsley is truly abysmal)


Quote:>They seem to be 50KW days in Kingsley, and evidently are new to
>that location, from the emails I've gotten back.  They're audible
>as interference in Columbus OH pretty much through the day.
>The only connection to Detroit is that's the only phone number
>listed for them in the FCC database (313-871-0590).  I had assumed
>they could be heard in Detroit if they could be heard in Columbus
>as well, and people could call them as a local call if they were
>moved to do so.


Quote:>WJZZ, along with WCHB-FM/AM-Detroit, was recently sold to Radio One of
>Maryland. Reports about the sale indicate WJZZ is off the air.

Here's what I (John Huebler) know:

Bell Broadcasting, which is being sold to Radio One, owns the
following stations:

WCHB-AM, 1200, Detroit
WCHB-FM, 105.9, Detroit
WKNX-AM, 1250, Bay City
WJZZ-AM, 1210, Frankenmuth, with a construction permit to move it
to Kingsley and increase its power to 50kw. Not sure about
pattern or night operation.

Some background:

* WKNX-AM was licensed on 1210 at 10kw days, directional, to
  Saginaw. In the early 80's they moved the operation and the city
  of license to Frankenmuth. Transmitter did not move; power and
  pattern were not altered.
* WXOX-AM was licensed on 1250 to Bay City at 1kw days. It's been
  silent for some years.
* WCHB-AM used to be on 1440. Bell wanted to move it to 1200, but
  WKNX-AM-1210 was in the way. Bell bought WKNX-AM-1210 (after it
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  had been moved to Frankenmuth). Speculation was that it would be
  silenced. Instead, Bell bought or acquired (at some point when I
  didn't notice) the silent WXOX-AM-1250 and prepared to move its
  Frankenmuth service to that frequency and power, in order to
  eliminate adjacent interference to 1200 and clear the way for
  WCHB's power increase.
* Bell recently converted its Detroit FM property from a jazz format
  to an urban format, and renamed it WCHB-FM. Not wanting to lose the
  WJZZ call letters, it parked them at the 1210 service when it
  went silent in Frankenmuth

Confused yet? Here is what I believe to be the current line-up,
all owned by Bell:

* WCHB-AM, 1200, Detroit
* WCHB-FM, 105.9, Detroit
* WKNX-AM, 1250, licensed to Bay City, studios in Frankenmuth, and
  serving Frankenmuth. It is leased to a local operator, and I
  can't believe that the purchaser of Bell will have much interest
  in retaining it.
* WJZZ-AM, 1210, Kingsley, has a construction permit or is
  operational. The newsgroup reports confirm that it is on the air
  in some way. I wonder if the purchaser of Bell will have interest
  in this station.
* The 1210 frequency is no longer in operation in the
  Saginaw/Frankenmuth area.
* Bell is headquartered in Detroit, hence the 313 phone number.

I hope I have reported this correctly!

I have a minor obsession with the history of WKNX. Like-minded
people are invited to contact me for a discussion about it.

John Huebler

 
 
 

Mich stations on 1210 (WJZZ, WKNX)

Post by Ron Hardi » Fri, 13 Feb 1998 04:00:00



> * WJZZ-AM, 1210, Kingsley, has a construction permit or is
>   operational. The newsgroup reports confirm that it is on the air
>   in some way. I wonder if the purchaser of Bell will have interest
>   in this station.

Definitely on the air, daytime at least.  They play jazz, and give
station ID and city at irregular times (not particularly on the hour).

In Columbus I hear them mainly from when they turn on (8 AM) till about
11, and then again from about 3 to indefinite evening.  I believe this
is skywave not quite completely attenuated when the sun is not really
high.  (Unlike shortwave, the ionosphere _always_ reflects MW, and it's
a matter of excess ionization in the lower levels causing attenuation
in the day due to collisions; when attenuation isn't too bad, you still
hear skywave.  It's not on-off like shortwave.)

My own obsession is that they're off frequency, but we have a sort
of shared hobby nevertheless.
--
Ron Hardin

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