ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by PocketRa.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:47:47

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
doesn't work at night!

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by Stev » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:28:48



Quote:> ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

> http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

> It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> doesn't work at night!

Hmmm. Maybe it'll be worth pulling my Quantum Loop out of mothballs
tonight.
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by SFTVratings_t.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:22:07


Quote:> ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

> http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

> It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> doesn't work at night!

And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
even a screenshot of the email).

Truth is:

Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
inside 10 kHz.

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by Stev » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:35:44



> > ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

> >http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

> > It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> > doesn't work at night!

> And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
> even a screenshot of the email).

> Truth is:

> Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
> inside 10 kHz.

Of course, they can fix all of the technical problems and that won't
help the business model.
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by Stephanie Wei » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:57:28


Quote:> And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
> even a screenshot of the email).

> Truth is:

> Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
> inside 10 kHz.

Our local ABC station (WABC-77) has been turning off its IBOC at night
for the past two nights, I've noticed.  I figured something had to be
wrong between WABC and WJR-76 in Detroit.

Univision's WADO-1280 does the same thing.  Sometimes it's not even on
during the day.  Wonder who complained to WADO about nighttime
interference.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by dxAc » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:07:54



> > And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
> > even a screenshot of the email).

> > Truth is:

> > Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
> > inside 10 kHz.

> Our local ABC station (WABC-77) has been turning off its IBOC at night
> for the past two nights, I've noticed.  I figured something had to be
> wrong between WABC and WJR-76 in Detroit.

> Univision's WADO-1280 does the same thing.  Sometimes it's not even on
> during the day.  Wonder who complained to WADO about nighttime
> interference.

Oh, oh. You mentioned Univision which will bring Edweenie out to the lectern to
give us all another lecture.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Don't do business with the Huntington Investment Company.

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by Stephanie Wei » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:16:01


Quote:> Oh, oh. You mentioned Univision which will bring Edweenie out to the lectern to
> give us all another lecture.

I just report what  I hear.  I occasionally do tune in WADO late at
night when they're playing music (for some odd reason instead of
replaying daytime talk shows).  Last night was one such night.  Didn't
notice any IBOC noise at all.  I just wonder what's up with that

The few times I've listened to 1280 during the day, its IBOC signal
has sometimes been on and sometimes not.

Stephanie Weil

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by PocketRa.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:28:49



> > ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

> >http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

> > It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> > doesn't work at night!

> And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
> even a screenshot of the email).

> Truth is:

> Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
> inside 10 kHz.

Won't happen - the signal is already at least 20khz wide on each side
- LOL!
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by cuhu.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:30:10

Ahhhhhh hesh up.Doggy, she is sleepin down between my legs right now.
cuhulin
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by PocketRa.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 04:40:39



> > ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

> >http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html

> > It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> > doesn't work at night!

> And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
> even a screenshot of the email).

> Truth is:

> Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
> inside 10 kHz.



> ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC
> http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,82132.0.html
> It's over for AM-HD - no sense in running it during the day, if it
> doesn't work at night!

To quote:

"Yep. I saw that one coming. Behind the scenes, the impression the
companies have had when it comes to nighttime operation has been quite
negative. HD is finally starting to unravel. It's about time."
--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400

http://tinyurl.com/2l6c4k

Ha! Ha! SFTVratings! Eduardo!

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by David Eduard » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:21:39



>> And I'm supposed to believe some anonymous guy without any proof (not
>> even a screenshot of the email).

>> Truth is:

>> Nightime IBOC would work just fine if the adjust the parameters to fit
>> inside 10 kHz.

> Our local ABC station (WABC-77) has been turning off its IBOC at night
> for the past two nights, I've noticed.  I figured something had to be
> wrong between WABC and WJR-76 in Detroit.

> Univision's WADO-1280 does the same thing.  Sometimes it's not even on
> during the day.  Wonder who complained to WADO about nighttime
> interference.

It has not been on due to an e***r issue... the whole thing went back to
Quincy. It will return.
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by David Eduard » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:23:01



>> Oh, oh. You mentioned Univision which will bring Edweenie out to the
>> lectern to
>> give us all another lecture.

> I just report what  I hear.  I occasionally do tune in WADO late at
> night when they're playing music (for some odd reason instead of
> replaying daytime talk shows).  Last night was one such night.  Didn't
> notice any IBOC noise at all.  I just wonder what's up with that

> The few times I've listened to 1280 during the day, its IBOC signal
> has sometimes been on and sometimes not.

We detected a design issue in the AM e***r, after it wiped out 70% of the
RF modules in the KTNQ transmitter. As a precaution, the units were sent in
fro retrofitting.
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by PocketRa.. » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:27:32





> >> Oh, oh. You mentioned Univision which will bring Edweenie out to the
> >> lectern to
> >> give us all another lecture.

> > I just report what  I hear.  I occasionally do tune in WADO late at
> > night when they're playing music (for some odd reason instead of
> > replaying daytime talk shows).  Last night was one such night.  Didn't
> > notice any IBOC noise at all.  I just wonder what's up with that

> > The few times I've listened to 1280 during the day, its IBOC signal
> > has sometimes been on and sometimes not.

> We detected a design issue in the AM e***r, after it wiped out 70% of the
> RF modules in the KTNQ transmitter. As a precaution, the units were sent in
> fro retrofitting.

Ah, no one will notice - no one is listening!
 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by Stephanie Wei » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:42:39


Quote:> We detected a design issue in the AM e***r, after it wiped out 70% of the
> RF modules in the KTNQ transmitter. As a precaution, the units were sent in
> fro retrofitting.

I don't know David.  If a pice of gear takes out 70 percent of my
(very expensive) transmitter -- the thing that makes money for me -- I
wouldn't be sending it back for a retrofitting.  Instead, I'd be
tossing a shitfit and demanding my money back from the manufacturer,
in addition to compensation for lost air time and ad dollars.

I'd then consider sending them the bashed-up piece of gear, postage to
be paid by recipient.   Nah, just kidding on that.

Seriously though.  Ad dollars being what they are, you can't afford to
be off the air for a second because of a piece of defective gear
blowing up your rig.

Stephanie Weil
New York City, USA

 
 
 

ABC CITADEL AM STATIONS SUSPEND NIGHTTIME IBOC

Post by SFTV_tro » Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:45:42



> > Truth is: Nightime IBOC would work just fine if they
> > adjust the parameters to fit inside 10 kHz.

> Won't happen - the signal is already at least 20khz wide
> on each side - LOL!

- Eliminate the analog, and HD fits very nicely into a 10 kHz channel.

- Alternatively, you could keep the analog and let the HD "hang over"
5 kHz per side, which would not be quite as bad as the current
situation.