Red Wave Radio

> P.S. Are you Muslim? If so, as spokesman for the shortwave listening
> family, I must tell you that you are not welcome in this group.

> I don't think nobody ever hears about. I was already expecting someone
> to ask thiis question as soon as I send this message. Thank you very
> much fo not disapointing me my friend :)
> >What is the official government number? Thanks.
> Well, there is no official number. Because that first world war led
> the ottoman empire to collapse. Hundreds of thousands of people died
> from hunger. There were no officials to log some statistical datas.
> Every individual was struggling to survive. I heard many stories from
> my grand parents and old people telling that they were dancing when
> they found a death body of a horse, because it would be only thing to
> eat. But I know that the total population of ottoman empire during the
>***world war was about 13 millions. Since %10 of them are told to be
> Armenian, there should be about 1.3 millions of Armenians. If turks
> killed them all, then the official number should be 1.3 millions.
> I don't know the exact number of deaths during the war. Either
> Armenian or Turkish or Greek or Russian. You say that you hear many
> things about armenian holocaust. That's true, some of the history book
> I read was telling the truth of armenian holocaust, and some of the
> books calling the same events as turkish holocaust. I don't know which
> one is the mere truth. But, if you ask my own opinion, I will say that
> unfortunately horrible things happened in those times and both sides
> killed many innocent people from the opposite side. For instance, My
> grandfather's village is in eastern anatolia. He, with other 4
> children were the only survivers of a holocaust armenian gangs (or
> army, what ever you call it) did to their village's 3000 people. My
> father's uncles, who were small kids, were killed too.
> And, a very close friend of mine, his mother is armenian, tells me
> that half of the population of his grandmother's village, including
> innocent civilians died
> in those battles.
> I believe that history should teach us not hatred but love. we
> shouldn't use history to remember the bad things and feed the revenge
> feelings. I for instance, have no bad feelings for armenians just
> because killers of my father's uncles and grandparents were speaking
> armenian language. As I have said, my closest friend is half armenian,
> I have many good friends from armenians. But, also, I know many
> armenians I don't like at all, as I know many turks who I am reluctent
> to exchange greetings, some of whome are not a human but animals.
> Likewise: Washington and Lincoln were christians, so was adolf hitler
> and mussolini. As everybody knows, There is nothing to do with one's
> language or religion to like or dislike him.
> > Melvin
> > P.S. Are you Muslim? If so, as spokesman for the shortwave listening
> > family, I must tell you that you are not welcome in this group.
> I love  jesus and some of his teachings, as I do Buddha's, Zerdhust's
> and Ar-rumi's. My family is muslim. I can not describe myself as
> muslim, since I do not follow many of the practices of Islam, I do not
> share some of the ideas of Islam. I share the similar unorthodox,
> mysthic and ecsoteric ideas of Islam, Christianity and Jewism. But, if
> you really represent this group and you are the spokesman of the
> group, I will leave the group with pleasure. Because I don't like to
> bother you and other members. Please execuse me if I accidentally
> entered to a race/religion oriented group.
> And I apologise from all the members of this group because of this
> long off topic conversation I caused.
> Regards, Oan

> Dear members,
> I have found this wonderful group while searching for incar shortwave
> radio receivers. I am very happy to find people having same interest
> of dxing. Thus, I want to introduce my poorself to the group. Please
> forgive my errors in English.

> I am 34 and have been listening to shortwave broadcasts since early
> 80s. I  live in Istanbul, Turkey. My favorite was listening to pirate
> radios and radio liberty broadcasts to central asia. In cold war
> years, there were so many pirate radios targeting Turkey. Recently, as
> far as I know, there is no pirate station on SW os MW in Turkish. I
> think it
> is because of more freedom of express we have nowadays. Almost every
> opininon can be declared easily in newspapers, private radios stations
> etc. when
> compered with 80s. Probably, that's one of the reasons why the number
> of shortwave broadcasters decreases all over the world, more widely
> accepted "freedom". Another reason is the ideas and ideologies of the
> people are not completely different, again when compered with 80s.
> Hence, they don't burn with the desire to declare their own ideas. So
> far,
> Capitalism won the war and the need to long distance shortwave
> broadcasts decreased:) (an example: A unique interpretation of
> communism lived in Albania before the collapse of communism and radio
> Tirana had a very powerful 3-4 hours of daily radio broadcast  in
> Turkish which could be listened all over Turkey like a local radio.
> Now, R. Tirana broadcasts in Turkish is for 30 minitues. Because, they
> don't have different things to tell to the world...

> Anyway, I am very happy to find this group and have been a regular
> visiter since the first day I have found it.
> Regards, Oan.

>   Yes I am the official spokesman for this newsgroup...

> You are a real creep.

> And what about "the americans" having ***ed nearly all Indians and
> stole their land. And it's not finished yet...
> What about "the christians" and their massacres on south american
> natives and others around the world 'in the name of christianity'?
> And what "christian war" is still going on in Ireland...?
> What about "the germans" and the holocaust with the jews?
> What about "the jewish" just doing a holocaust with their neighbours around?
> What about "the russians" and their "archipel gulag"?
> ...to be continuesd....
> And what about you, russian-jewish emigrant with american passport?
> No? You're not a russian-jewish emigrant with american passport? But
> your parents were for sure....

> I know more muslims are beeing better and truthworthy men than those
> calling themselfs "chrstians" but beeing nothing but a bunch of
> ***s. Maybe you're a spokesman of them but clearly NOT for the
> 'shortwave listening family'.
> I take every man and woman for his/ her own. So it's clear where to put
> _you_. Give the world a favour: Get a rope and shoot yourself to death
> NOW. There is really no need for people like you in this world.
> No, I'm not a muslim and a "christian" neither.
> I'm simply a 'believer in god the allmighty'.

> Volker