Red Wave Radio

by **Jim Kehl** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

I know a few of you have been bothered by messages posted to these
and other amateur newsgroups by K1oik in the last few days.

It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
character of a fellow ham.

I thought everyone would be happy to know that we shouldn't be
bothered any further by this gentlemen, as his internet account has
apparantly been terminated.

Whoever the little worm was, I hope he had fun while it lasted, and
I would like to commend AOL for quickly pulling the plug on him.
Amazing how easy it is to make a little piece of dirt disappear down
the drain. I would also like to thank all the other hams who were
involved in notifying AOL of the problem. Solving little problems
like this are a shining example of what hams can do when they stick
together as a group.

On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend
apologies to the REAL Burt Fisher, K1OIK, and tell him that we
realized (well, most of us anyway) right from the first posting that
the messages posted by this impersonater were no where near
the quality or caliber of what Burt normally posts, and we hold
him in no way responsible for anything posted by this second rate
AOL imitation of a real ham.

73, Jim KH2D

by **Guy Teag** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

<del>
: On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend
: apologies to the REAL Burt Fisher, K1OIK, and tell him that we
: realized (well, most of us anyway) right from the first posting that
: the messages posted by this impersonater were no where near
: the quality or caliber of what Burt normally posts, and we hold
: him in no way responsible for anything posted by this second rate
: AOL imitation of a real ham.

: 73, Jim KH2D
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You're right that it was no where near the quality - the imposter used
real sentences with actual structure and coherence - that crack about CB
being too intellectual wasn't bad!

If k1oink (sic) talks like he types, it's no wonder he's frustrated that
no one will talk to him. To play the devil's advocate, one must be able to
advocate with some degree of facility. <g>

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<http://www.why.net/home/gteague/gtweb.html> "They're out there" K Kesey

by **Siegfried Rambau** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:> On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend
> apologies to the REAL Burt Fisher, K1OIK, and tell him that we
> realized (well, most of us anyway) right from the first posting that
> the messages posted by this impersonater were no where near
> the quality or caliber of what Burt normally posts, and we hold
> him in no way responsible for anything posted by this second rate
> AOL imitation of a real ham.

.. and I may add the thanks of many universities, which never before had
such good "real world" reading material for their pathological psychology
classes. The material seemed to get inconsistent lately, with all those
surprise moments of lucidity and intellectual brilliance.

by **Siegfried Rambau** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

> I know a few of you have been bothered by messages posted to these
> and other amateur newsgroups by K1oik in the last few days.

You can't be serious, Jim.
I enjoyed them, and so did quite a few other readers.

Quote:> It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
> are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
> character of a fellow ham.

A fellow ham? Would you mind checking the meaning of "fellow" with
Webster's...

Quote:> I thought everyone would be happy to know that we shouldn't be
> bothered any further by this gentlemen, as his internet account has
> apparantly been terminated.

That guy entertained and was fun to read; while burt's postings should be
conserved, as they make an efficient remedy for food poisoning. "Drink
lots of water, then read five immediately. Repeat two times..."

Quote:> Whoever the little worm was, I hope he had fun while it lasted, and
> I would like to commend AOL for quickly pulling the plug on him.
> Amazing how easy it is to make a little piece of dirt disappear down
> the drain. I would also like to thank all the other hams who were
> involved in notifying AOL of the problem. Solving little problems
> like this are a shining example of what hams can do when they stick
> together as a group.

"little worm" ... "little piece of dirt" ... tsk, tsk, tsk ... Did it ever
occur to you, that you were talking about a human? One with obviously more
brains than Burt ever will muster? Does the fact, that you did not see the
point of those postings, give you the right to use such language? Is that
the language of "fellow hams"? Or "a shining example"?

Quote:> On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend

Who empowered you to speak for me? And with this rotten language? I am
ham, I am on the internet, but I did not empower you to speak for me ...
Speak for yourself only, Jim.

Quote:> apologies to the REAL Burt Fisher, K1OIK, and tell him that we
> realized (well, most of us anyway) right from the first posting that

"We"? Majesty's plural? .... humm .... interesting

by **Ted** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

> > I know a few of you have been bothered by messages posted to these
> > and other amateur newsgroups by K1oik in the last few days.

> You can't be serious, Jim.
> I enjoyed them, and so did quite a few other readers.

> > It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
> > are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
> > character of a fellow ham.

> A fellow ham? Would you mind checking the meaning of "fellow" with
> Webster's...

> > I thought everyone would be happy to know that we shouldn't be
> > bothered any further by this gentlemen, as his internet account has
> > apparantly been terminated.

> That guy entertained and was fun to read; while burt's postings should be
> conserved, as they make an efficient remedy for food poisoning. "Drink
> lots of water, then read five immediately. Repeat two times..."

> > Whoever the little worm was, I hope he had fun while it lasted, and
> > I would like to commend AOL for quickly pulling the plug on him.
> > Amazing how easy it is to make a little piece of dirt disappear down
> > the drain. I would also like to thank all the other hams who were
> > involved in notifying AOL of the problem. Solving little problems
> > like this are a shining example of what hams can do when they stick
> > together as a group.

> "little worm" ... "little piece of dirt" ... tsk, tsk, tsk ... Did it ever
> occur to you, that you were talking about a human? One with obviously more
> brains than Burt ever will muster? Does the fact, that you did not see the
> point of those postings, give you the right to use such language? Is that
> the language of "fellow hams"? Or "a shining example"?

> > On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend

> Who empowered you to speak for me? And with this rotten language? I am
> ham, I am on the internet, but I did not empower you to speak for me ...
> Speak for yourself only, Jim.

> > apologies to the REAL Burt Fisher, K1OIK, and tell him that we
> > realized (well, most of us anyway) right from the first posting that

> "We"? Majesty's plural? .... humm .... interesting

I think he was being sarcastic. Jeez, everybody is so cranky. I think
we all need a little more sleep of something...
Ted F.
N3SQY

by **Jim Kehl** » Sat, 29 Jun 1996 04:00:00

>You can't be serious, Jim.
>I enjoyed them, and so did quite a few other readers.

Would you have enjoyed them as much had the worm used your name and
call when he signed up for AOL ?

Quote:>Who empowered you to speak for me? And with this rotten language? I am
>ham, I am on the internet, but I did not empower you to speak for me ...

Sorry, Siggy. Bad habit. Learned it from the ARRL.

73, Jim KH2D

by **Alan Goll** » Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>I know a few of you have been bothered by messages posted to these
>and other amateur newsgroups by K1oik in the last few days.

Well I'm one of many who enjoyed them. It's refreshing to read
a bit of black humour and satire amidst a rather humourless
group. Frankly I feel that anyone who is offended by anything
he says is thin-skinned, takes himself and the hobby far too
seriously and has too big an ego to realize he/she is under the
illusion of being too self-important.

Quote:>It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
>are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
>character of a fellow ham.

Oh lord, you make us sound like Communists.

Quote:>I thought everyone would be happy to know that we shouldn't be
>bothered any further by this gentlemen, as his internet account has
>apparantly been terminated.

If it's not him it will be someone else who realizes just how easy it
is to get a rise out of whiners and cry-babies.

Quote:>involved in notifying AOL of the problem. Solving little problems
>like this are a shining example of what hams can do when they stick
>together as a group.

Oh yes, Brothers and Sisters, Solidarity Forever! Now if only we
could solve big problems.

Quote:>On behalf of the hams on internet I would also like to extend

See what I mean folks, self-importance lives. He thinks he's
speaking for me and all hams on the Internet. Must be a
Republican (that ought to get me a few more flames!)

Keep smiling.

Alan VE3XAG

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by **Jim Kehl** » Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:00:00

>Well I'm one of many who enjoyed them.

Would you have enjoyed them as much if someone had signed up for AOL
with your name and call ?

Quote:>It's refreshing to read a bit of black humour and satire amidst a rather humourless
>group.

Geez, Alan, what have you been reading ? This newsgroup beats any
comedy club I've ever been to. It's like Saturday Nite Live all week !

Quote:>If it's not him it will be someone else who realizes just how easy it
>is to get a rise out of whiners and cry-babies.

Surely you're not suggesting that hams who frequent this newsgroup
are whiners and cry-babies ?

Quote:>Now if only we could solve big problems.

What big problems you want us to solve ? Give us a few to work on.

Quote:>See what I mean folks, self-importance lives. He thinks he's
>speaking for me and all hams on the Internet.

Sorry, Alan. Bad habit. Learned it from the ARRL.

73, Jim KH2D

by **Burt Fishe** » Sun, 30 Jun 1996 04:00:00

> Well I'm one of many who enjoyed them. It's refreshing to read
> a bit of black humour and satire amidst a rather humourless
> group. Frankly I feel that anyone who is offended by anything
> he says is thin-skinned, takes himself and the hobby far too
> seriously and has too big an ego to realize he/she is under the
> illusion of being too self-important.

At least there is black something re: ham radio. Because we sure do not welcome
black people. Hams humourless?? Surely you jest. Can't you hear all the HI HI HI
HI's? Hams are a real hoot.

I laught at myself and I accept a good shot in good humor but I am
an Atypical ham.

Quote:> If it's not him it will be someone else who realizes just how easy it
> is to get a rise out of whiners and cry-babies.

Hams are the easiest marks on earth.

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| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics |
| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) |
| K1OIK | Mr. Happy should not be happy all the time. |
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by **Bruce Mical** » Mon, 01 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Quote:
>At least there is black something re: ham radio. Because we sure do not
>welcome black people.

Burt,

Please do not speak for me. I welcome anyone that is or wishes to
become a ham. No matter of race, religion and/or creed.

Has for hams being white...I suggest that you look around world. There
are hames in just about every country and not all of those countries
have a white population.

Your comments have always been about hams in general with no
specificiation as to their location in the world. Therefore please
don't try "well, I really meant to say......".

Bruce Micales
WA2DEU

by **Lyndon Nerenbe** » Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
>are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
>character of a fellow ham.
>Whoever the little worm was, I hope he had fun while it lasted, and

^^^^^^^^^^^

Methinks you should take some of your own advice?

--lyndon

--

Engage your brain before your mouth ...

by **Jim Kehl** » Tue, 30 Jul 1996 04:00:00

>>It saddens me to think that within the brotherhood of ham radio there
>>are people who would go out of their way in an attempt to stain the
>>character of a fellow ham.
>>Whoever the little worm was, I hope he had fun while it lasted, and
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>Methinks you should take some of your own advice?
>--lyndon

There you go, Lyndon, thinking again. Remember, Mommy told you that
will make you get headaches. Where do you guys dig up last months
postings anyway ?

73, Jim KH2D

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